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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #457989 is a reply to message #457987] |
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Yes, I have been shocked but not surprised.
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #457991 is a reply to message #457987] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 07:49 |
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Not even shocked.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #457994 is a reply to message #457987] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 08:43 |
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I'm not surprised, but I am shocked. So yes, I guess it is possible.
How dare they assume that control without being properly empowered to do so?! That's abhorent!
The individuals involved are to blame, but I wonder if that blame extends to the Church, too?
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458009 is a reply to message #457987] |
Mon, 17 October 2011 16:10 |
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The funny thing is that somewhere, someone in the catholic church will defend this by citing something in the bible somewhere, and then everyone else will back them.
also, doesn't surprise me at all
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458114 is a reply to message #458009] |
Wed, 19 October 2011 08:18 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Mon, 17 October 2011 17:10 |
The funny thing is that somewhere, someone in the catholic church will defend this by citing something in the bible somewhere, and then everyone else will back them.
also, doesn't surprise me at all
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However it shocks you I take it? Otherwise the statement you made is rather off topic.
I don't really think so, beings in order to be surprised you can't really have known about it, and if you always knew about it I'd have a hard time believing that you were shocked by it on a daily basses, but never felt any surprise that it was happening.
I mean, being shocked about information is a rather short term effect until you get used to it, and if it was enough to shock you I'd think you'd be surprised... otherwise it wouldn't be that shocking.
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458536 is a reply to message #457987] |
Thu, 27 October 2011 05:11 |
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and i love how every time i point to an organisation that does horrifically bad things, you act like i'm the one who's behaving abnormally by saying so
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458542 is a reply to message #457987] |
Thu, 27 October 2011 05:42 |
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That's probably the worst part of any large group that believes in something (Whether it be God, Jesus, Super Jesus, a global conspiracy, xenu, or whatever stupid bullshit people come up with). They almost always seem legitimately surprised when someone disagrees- thus they react as if you're saying "Uh, sex doesn't make babies. They come from storks".
And if not surprised, they instantly reject what you have to say (regardless of how much they let you talk to make themselves feel nice), usually tagging you in their mind as some negative group associated with their belief (that can often be lumped in with any other negative group as "them" or "they"). See: Westboro Baptist Church for an example.
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458544 is a reply to message #457987] |
Thu, 27 October 2011 06:07 |
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btw blueyez
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firstly, blu3y3z, do you wanna have a crack at my reply to your last comment about religion?
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I always thought of it this way, if there is a god, why take your chances? if there is not a god then ok but if there is, its to late your fucked when you die
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this is what religion always boils down to in the end... threats.
by "take your chances" i presume you mean being honest about having doubts about the extremely specific claims made by religion, bearing in mind the complete lack of evidence for them.
secondly, belief isn't a choice. i don't know how your mind works, but i can't choose to believe something even if i'm threatened with punishment if i don't.
thirdly, there are several contradictory religions who make this threat. the pope says only catholics are going to heaven and other non-catholic christians are going to hell with all the other atheists. some protestant churches say the same thing in reverse. islam says all non-muslims are going to hell. who's right, blu3y3z? which of these if any are correct, and which are liars and frauds?
fourthly, you're saying this god of yours is going to torture people just for not being convinced of his existence (again, see above re: complete lack of evidence). what a colossal prick. what a cruel, merciless monster this god of yours seems to be. you want to worship something as evil as that? what does this say about you?
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but its more then that its a faith that brings you happiness and most people who I know who are religious are good hard working people, while most people who dont believe him so they think they can create all chaos they want which led to horrible things. Yes alot of people take religion and turn it into something bad cults, terrorist, but we only notice them for that reason while more of the world has crime create form the ones who don't believe.
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interesting you say that. you're pro-torture and anti-freedom of religion, and the reason you take these extraordinary positions is religion. you wouldn't think that if it wasn't for religion, surely.
you talk about people "taking religion and turning it into cults and terrorists". well, i presume you consider yourself a moderate, yet you're anti-freedom of religion and pro-torture as a punishment for not being the right religion. as for the fundamentalists, i hope you're aware that islamic jihadism isn't a misinterpretation or corruption of the quran and hadith. i invite you to read them.
"most people don't believe him so they think they can create all chaos they want" - the religious always like to find a hidden agenda for anyone who doesn't believe their extremely specific claims. it can't be because you've got fuck all evidence or because your holy book is revolting, can it?
"more of the world has crime create form the ones who don't believe."
in america, the proportion of prison inmates who are atheists is significantly lower than the proportion of atheists in the free population. i wouldn't necessarily argue that this proves anything, but you said it. as for the rest of the world, the more secular countries always do best in societal health - low crime, good education, good health, low teenage pregnancy etc.
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if someone said i was pro-torture and anti-freedom of religion, i would definitely want to correct them.
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wow spoony really? another anti-religion crusade............
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yes, here's yet another case of a religion behaving in an almost indescribably evil manner. as if we needed another. you'll notice i've generally left Sikhs and Quakers alone, for example; why do you think that might be?
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #458693 is a reply to message #457987] |
Sat, 29 October 2011 04:15 |
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yeah, i figured it probably stumped you the first time, that's why you pretended you didn't read it.
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #459062 is a reply to message #457987] |
Mon, 07 November 2011 04:41 |
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Lol, spoony.
I don't believe in god and i dislike the church myself, but what's with the hatred against religion? Sure, they abuse power and some do bad... but it's not like all non-religious folks are clean of such horrific acts.
Religion can be great as long as one keeps it to himself and doesn't turn you into a narrow-minded prick. Even though it tends to do that.
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tell me taz - if this thread was about Coca-Cola and some of the horrific things they've been caught doing, would you be replying to ask me what's my hatred of soft drinks all about?
the topic's about a specific organisation that's been kidnapping children from their parents and selling them, and using forged documents to cover it up etc. doing this for decades to thousands and thousands of children. if this was the only bad thing we knew about the catholic church (and let's not mince words, it isn't even the worst thing we know about them) it would put the organisation in the bad books of anyone of normal moral sensibilities. you see this and your only comment is to ask spoony why he hates religion? please don't let this be your only reaction. have more self-respect than that.
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Mon, 07 November 2011 09:03 |
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I am not sure how him pointing out that the Catholic church did these horrible adoption-schemes (that emotionally destroyed the lives of so many people) amounts to him having a "hatred against religion."
And you ignore the crime by making it into a "how-many-skeletons-you-got-in-your-closet" contest between religious vs non-religious folks.
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| Re: Is it possible to be shocked but not surprised? [message #459073 is a reply to message #457987] |
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Have you ever seen me "lash out" at - let's pick a couple of examples - Sikhs or Quakers? Can you find a single post where I rant about those?
Isn't the problem more likely to be the fact that the Catholic Church keeps getting caught doing horrifically bad things? Kidnapping children from their parents and then selling them? Then a guy like me makes a civilised post about it on a forum, and that's 'fanatical'.
You even say you know first-hand how badly this organisation behaves. Why, then, do you think I'm the one with the explaining to do?
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