| renegade ressurection from icefinch.net [message #388843] |
Mon, 01 June 2009 14:12  |
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i play on a server titled aoooooooooooo (not exact amount of o's) 1. ppl that play there use a thing called renegade ressurection. i downloaded it even though i didn't know what the fuck it was. it turned out i entered into renegade through there, and that that was where you chose a server. but it didn't work. if anyone knows what it is, what it does, or how to use it, please speak up.
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| Re: renegade ressurection from icefinch.net [message #388854 is a reply to message #388845] |
Mon, 01 June 2009 16:09  |
_SSnipe_
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| madrackz wrote on Mon, 01 June 2009 14:28 |
Its a simple Modification for Server & Client. You dont need it.
Only if you play on the RenCommunity Marathon Server.
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Dont need it but its good, fixes and such and anti cheat, theres a list somewhere
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| Re: renegade ressurection from icefinch.net [message #388865 is a reply to message #388843] |
Mon, 01 June 2009 19:12 |
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slosha
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I think it's a very simple way to join servers. I like that you can easily change your name, but I wish there was some sort of password feature.
The road I cruise is a bitch now, baby.
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| Re: renegade ressurection from icefinch.net [message #388884 is a reply to message #388843] |
Mon, 01 June 2009 23:45 |
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Goztow
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You don't need to use that list, afaik. You can have it launch renegade so you can use your normal list from there, I think.
The main reason some servers ask you to use it is because it contains some extra anti cheat measures.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: renegade ressurection from icefinch.net [message #389573 is a reply to message #388843] |
Sun, 07 June 2009 12:39 |
Pyr0man1c
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why not you can disable it and enable it, and you don't get banned for using RR on RG servers.
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
| AmunRa |
and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
- v00d00
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| ELiT3FLyR |
ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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