| Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372388] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 15:12  |
cnc95fan
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I have a dell foxconn g33 motherboard which is quad core capable. Dell ships this mobo in 2 different versions, one with enough power for dual core and another which will supply the correct amount for a quad core. This mobo came with the dual core version. Is there a way I can add more watts to the CPU externally? I know it's possible since overclockers have to do it when they need more power, all google search results I have done do not display what I'm looking for
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372416 is a reply to message #372401] |
Mon, 16 February 2009 19:13  |
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| Speedy059 wrote on Mon, 16 February 2009 17:55 |
It's possible. Simply run two wires from your electricity socket outlet and solder ground wire to your chassis and the positive wire directly onto your CPU. Then go into your BIOS configurations and crank up the settings.
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372435 is a reply to message #372388] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 01:03 |
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What do you mean by "enough power for quad cores" and the other "enough power for dual cores"? Something is amiss here.
The motherboard is obviously the same, and the BIOS for that board accepts quad core CPUs, the only thing differing must be the PSU. Simply upgrade that.
P.S. Overclockers do not "add more watts" to the CPU. They add voltage through the BIOS, and also generally have decent quality PSUs from the start.
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372438 is a reply to message #372435] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 01:37 |
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| Chuck Norris wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 02:03 |
What do you mean by "enough power for quad cores" and the other "enough power for dual cores"? Something is amiss here.
The motherboard is obviously the same, and the BIOS for that board accepts quad core CPUs, the only thing differing must be the PSU. Simply upgrade that.
P.S. Overclockers do not "add more watts" to the CPU. They add voltage through the BIOS, and also generally have decent quality PSUs from the start.
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If you buy an Inspiron 530 from dell, an buy it with a dual core processor they ship a modified version of the board which limits the amount of power that can go though to the CPU.
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372454 is a reply to message #372450] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 06:20 |
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That's true. I'm aware wattage and amperage are directly related, but what I was pointing out is that extra watts are not additionally supplied by the user some other extra and/or manual means on top of the normal power they already draw to function. When overclocking, if more power is needed, you simply raise the voltage in the BIOS and the motherboard automatically gives it that much more wattage. Since the OP stated the board was locked of giving the CPU more power (as most OEMs don't have overclocking options), and he was asking if all other overclocking was done in that way so we could show him how, I was saying no, it's not how it's done.
I'm not seeing how that board doesn't support quad core CPUs but does dual cores unless the BIOS varies, and if they do, it's likely Dell made the boards different in same small way to where they don't/can't use the same BIOS. I'm not sure why Dell did this, but it's not the first time they've done something silly. Either this, or it's only the boards that come with quad cores that ship with the updated BIOS, and the others need updated, but that sounds very, very unlikely. I'm betting Dell, for whatever reason (probably to get more money selling quad cores at inflated prices) made the boards slightly different, so you probably won't be able to flash the BIOS.
Where is the source stating this that you found this out from?
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372468 is a reply to message #372465] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 10:36 |
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I'll quote from Wiki
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Compatibility Note: There are actually two versions of the Inspiron 530 in production, which are not differentiated in their specifications. When ordered with an Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad processor, the 530 is equipped with a FoxConn G33m03 motherboard and a LiteOn 375W power supply. When ordered in any other configuration, the 530 is typically equipped with a FoxConn G33m02 motherboard and a 300W Bestec power supply. The G33m02 and G33m03 are essentially identical except for the power regulation section of the motherboard. Essentially, the G33m02 is a depopulated (cheaper) version of the board which only has 6 voltage regulator IC's as opposed to the 11 voltage regulators on the G33m03. In practice, this means that the G33m02 version of the motherboard is physically incapable of providing enough current to operate the Intel Q6600 CPU. In essence, if you do not order the Quad Core processor with the system initially, you will NOT be able to upgrade it to one later.
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372475 is a reply to message #372468] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 12:08 |
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| cnc95fan wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 18:36 |
I'll quote from Wiki
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Compatibility Note: There are actually two versions of the Inspiron 530 in production, which are not differentiated in their specifications. When ordered with an Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad processor, the 530 is equipped with a FoxConn G33m03 motherboard and a LiteOn 375W power supply. When ordered in any other configuration, the 530 is typically equipped with a FoxConn G33m02 motherboard and a 300W Bestec power supply. The G33m02 and G33m03 are essentially identical except for the power regulation section of the motherboard. Essentially, the G33m02 is a depopulated (cheaper) version of the board which only has 6 voltage regulator IC's as opposed to the 11 voltage regulators on the G33m03. In practice, this means that the G33m02 version of the motherboard is physically incapable of providing enough current to operate the Intel Q6600 CPU. In essence, if you do not order the Quad Core processor with the system initially, you will NOT be able to upgrade it to one later.
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AKA what you want is impossible without a new motherboard.
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372480 is a reply to message #372468] |
Tue, 17 February 2009 13:12 |
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| cnc95fan wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 18:36 |
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Compatibility Note: In essence, if you do not order the Quad Core processor with the system initially, you will NOT be able to upgrade it to one later.
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So the answer was on wiki all the time. 
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372703 is a reply to message #372500] |
Fri, 20 February 2009 02:48 |
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| cnc95fan wrote on Tue, 17 February 2009 18:43 |
...Hence the adding of power externally...
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This is what I meant by "overclockers don't this to overclock". He said "add power externally" and "don't overclockers do this?", and, yes I missed the obvious and that my statement was literally incorrect by itself, but I was correct in the way that I was answering his question by telling him that that is not what is done when overclocking, as it's not. It's not possible.
This was a stupid move by Dell. I was sure all of their silly things like this, but it appears not. This is just like the one where they made PSUs physically, but not electrically, compatible, as you can imagine what that led to!
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| Re: Adding more CPU power externally? [message #372868 is a reply to message #372388] |
Sat, 21 February 2009 12:04 |
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I'd rather not, Chuck, thanks. I'm still getting over the power surge that fried one of my machines. After that - Surge protectors everywhere and the house's mains supply fitted with better circuit breakers. (That was being done anyway - but I made sure)
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