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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130033] Sat, 01 January 2005 02:28 Go to next message
nod3145 is currently offline  nod3145
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After having played many games on large servers (some using half-RG and others not using it at all) only to see cheaters run rampant while the innocent are kicked, I have decided to create this short video to help educate moderators.

It seems many moderators do not know what to look for in a cheater and/or often base their banning decisions off of popular opinion, which is often completely wrong.

The video shows the most common cheat being used in large servers today. I found it at an undisclosed website. It has since been deleted from my hard drive.

Keep in mind I have never cheated previous to this occasion (except for immediately before downloading the hack in a private server to test its functionality etc.) and the only reason I used it in the first place was to create this video, with the purpose of educating other legitimate Renegade players and moderators.

I am using a new nickname to keep my identity secret (though an admin could easily match my ip with my usual sn, it is my hope they will understand my intention and not take action against me).

Anyways, here is the video for those of you interested.

http://www.fullerhorizons.com/nat/CheatVideo.wmv

Note: Please feel free to post this video on server forums (Pits, St0rm, non00bs, etc.) for moderators and players to see. The more people know about cheating the easier it is to stop it.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130036] Sat, 01 January 2005 03:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thats what Full RenGuard mode was made for Wink
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130044] Sat, 01 January 2005 04:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are even more evil cheats than those...such as weapons that fire normally, but alternate fire does other things, this way they can pass most "tests" in servers (shoot me in the foot to see if I die etc).

All the more reason to run full RG mode on your server, or to !forcerg anyone who you suspect of cheating.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130047] Sat, 01 January 2005 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In many servers that "force RG" stuff is used as an excuse to remove a player that killed the person in question.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130049] Sat, 01 January 2005 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i found that intresting exactly.
i did not know a lot abou those cheats


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130052] Sat, 01 January 2005 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is why I only play in RG servers.
It really sucks to be almost in the enemies base as an SBH nuker only to be killed instantly by someone on the other side of the base while still fully cloaked.
Half-mode RG works nice, as you can just !forcerg them off. (doesn't bring back that $1400 you just lost though)
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130054] Sat, 01 January 2005 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so you wish to educate moderators by cheating yourself?

thats not the way to do it


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130057] Sat, 01 January 2005 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, it is. Showing them what it really looks like isn't educating them, right... :rolleyes:

The fact that he had to actually use the cheats to make the movie is irrelevant.


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130071] Sat, 01 January 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good video
lets hope some newbie mods with no experience in this game can start kicking the right people

one thing i would like to know.. you used the laser rifle to kill those men.. what did IRC report this as?

as normal rifle kill or SBH laser weapon kill ?

i have never check this.. but just an idea that poped into my head
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130074] Sat, 01 January 2005 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In many servers that "force RG" stuff is used as an excuse to remove a player that killed the person in question.


the person that killed him should of been running RG in the first place, so if he gets kicked, its hes fault
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130081] Sat, 01 January 2005 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130107] Sat, 01 January 2005 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade isn't worth cheating in, rank means nothing and cheating makes a game severly boring. Yet people do it. tsk tsk tsk
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130110] Sat, 01 January 2005 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to cheat only for educational purpose

this is sum thing that ive done for years..



you cheated for years??

get the fuck off these forums
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130112] Sat, 01 January 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good video
one thing i would like to know.. you used the laser rifle to kill those men.. what did IRC report this as?

as normal rifle kill or SBH laser weapon kill ?

i have never check this.. but just an idea that poped into my head


Not sure, good question though.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130122] Sat, 01 January 2005 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that video made my friend start playing renegade again, with all deh cheats...

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130137] Sat, 01 January 2005 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If youve used cheats online, even for 'educational' purposes then your not worth playing with and are no better than people that cheat for fun. The game that you were playing in that video was ruined because of your cheating, even if you were recording it as something to show people who dont cheat see what to look out for.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130144] Sat, 01 January 2005 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And idiots like you were the same people that screamed "YOU CAN'T CHEAT IN RENEGADE," causing WSE to release cheats just to prove you wrong and piss off a lot of people.

If you have to gain knowledge at the expense of "ruining" a single game, BOO HOO, GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

OH NO HE CHEATED ONCE TO HELP OTHERS IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE CHEATING PLAYERS... OH NO THAT'S SO HORRIBLE, THE PEOPLE THAT PLAYED IN THE RUINED GAME WILL BE SCARRED FOR LIFE
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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130158] Sat, 01 January 2005 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no sympathy for anyone who get's !forcerg'ed. They should be running it anyway. Regardless of how inaffective Half-Renguard mode is overall, it IS bringing more and more people onto Renguard and we have the highest traffic levels we've ever seen.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130166] Sat, 01 January 2005 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it IS bringing more and more people onto Renguard and we have the highest traffic levels we've ever seen.

So true the Renegade n00bstories server was actually full the other day! Shocked


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130171] Sat, 01 January 2005 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahh, remember the days when cheating didn't even exist in this game!

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damn, back when the +HS+ was the biggest thing and sniper only servers were in and cops and robbers were kewl too.

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And idiots like you were the same people that screamed "YOU CAN'T CHEAT IN RENEGADE," causing WSE to release cheats just to prove you wrong and piss off a lot of people.

If you have to gain knowledge at the expense of "ruining" a single game, BOO HOO, GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

OH NO HE CHEATED ONCE TO HELP OTHERS IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE CHEATING PLAYERS... OH NO THAT'S SO HORRIBLE, THE PEOPLE THAT PLAYED IN THE RUINED GAME WILL BE SCARRED FOR LIFE

Exactly, and in reference to pendellum, there is cheaters right now on renegade, by him making this video it should hopefully educate those mods that don't know about anything other than BH.


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