| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966593] |
Wed, 18 September 2002 02:40   |
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This is what I was refering to in the first place. Can't you technically do that same thing if you were a Sniper?
The enemy will walk past you and not know you are there, and you get the drop. If you were refering to ducking when the snipers both know the location of each other, then I agree with you.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966592] |
Wed, 18 September 2002 02:49 |
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Originally posted by Javaxcx:
This is what I was refering to in the first place. Can't you technically do that same thing if you were a Sniper?
The enemy will walk past you and not know you are there, and you get the drop. If you were refering to ducking when the snipers both know the location of each other, then I agree with you.
Well if it was me and I was a sniper I would go after them get the points and stop that Mobius doing damage.
Although wise choice would be to go with a decoy or support as charging into the base on Canyon, solo, with a beacon, is suicide (If other side has vehicles and it's a 40 player game).
End of the day, it's your choice.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966591] |
Wed, 18 September 2002 17:49 |
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You mean ducking behind objects for protection of them is bad too?
There are some spots that ducking can be very useful. You just have to look for them (most of the time it's ducking behind something)
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966590] |
Wed, 18 September 2002 06:32 |
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ADM's definition of sniping is alot different than yours. You think of it like I do. A patient wait and seek and get that kill the hard way. Through patience and skillfull hiding.
He sees it as a contest where everyone runs into the tunnel or field and shoots everyone dead. This has become the Renegade model for sniping due to the power of the ramjets. There is skill in that too, but I don't consider it sniping. I would agree with him that if you crouch in the tunnel, or without cover, then he will own you every time. He's good at that.
But if you hide behind a bunker, he runs by you because he didnt see you, then you own him. Hiding is useful.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966589] |
Thu, 19 September 2002 01:05 |
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quote:
Originally posted by generalfox:
You mean ducking behind objects for protection of them is bad too?
There are some spots that ducking can be very useful. You just have to look for them (most of the time it's ducking behind something)
Why duck behind objects if you're a sniper?
a: It slows you down, so any opponent can reach you quickly.
b: You hiding gives the enemy time.
c: You could be getting kills, even with 1 HP.
d: The best snipers don't hide.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966587] |
Thu, 19 September 2002 01:14 |
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Originally posted by KIRBY098:
ADM's definition of sniping is alot different than yours. You think of it like I do. A patient wait and seek and get that kill the hard way. Through patience and skillfull hiding.
He sees it as a contest where everyone runs into the tunnel or field and shoots everyone dead. This has become the Renegade model for sniping due to the power of the ramjets. There is skill in that too, but I don't consider it sniping. I would agree with him that if you crouch in the tunnel, or without cover, then he will own you every time. He's good at that.
But if you hide behind a bunker, he runs by you because he didnt see you, then you own him. Hiding is useful.
Renegade was built for either ways of sniping, close range (sometimes tunnel wars) and long range. Whoever says sniping is ONLY long range needs to be shot.
There is no realistic long range shooting in this game (rifle doesn't shake while using scope, you can move perfectly and the rifle remains still). So long range is no better than close range.
I would never run past someone who is hiding, I check everywhere thoroughly and from a safe movement zone, experience in my hand.
[ September 19, 2002, 08:15: Message edited by: ADM ]
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966586] |
Thu, 19 September 2002 01:19 |
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Originally posted by KIRBY098:
I'll be behind the rock you just jumped past.
Yep, you'll be behind the rock I just passed, only thing is, you're dead. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966583] |
Thu, 19 September 2002 06:55 |
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Close combat is not sniping. Sniping is hitting people without being seen using the Sniper rifles scope.
Besides, what you said about hiding behind a rock is bad is totally your opinions. I'm a really good sniper (if I had decent connection I'd be a hell of alot better) and I hide behind stuff usually to reload my gun.
Besides, hiding doesn't make you a worse sniper at all.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966582] |
Thu, 19 September 2002 11:08 |
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quote:
Originally posted by generalfox:
Close combat is not sniping. Sniping is hitting people without being seen using the Sniper rifles scope.
I have to disagree with this. You are using a sniper rifle in the simplest terms, but couldn't you also argue that when you use close range combat with a shotgun, could it also be called 'sg laming'? (For those of you who have played Infantry Online by Sony )
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966581] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 01:24 |
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quote:
Originally posted by generalfox:
Close combat is not sniping. Sniping is hitting people without being seen using the Sniper rifles scope.
Besides, what you said about hiding behind a rock is bad is totally your opinions. I'm a really good sniper (if I had decent connection I'd be a hell of alot better) and I hide behind stuff usually to reload my gun.
Besides, hiding doesn't make you a worse sniper at all.
Using rocks as cover is what all the best do, it's just we don't duck behind a rock. Also this is Renegade. Renegade sniping, whether you like it, or not, consists of CLOSE and LONG range.
Oh and hiding makes your kills lower than your deaths.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966579] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 01:32 |
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quote:
Originally posted by ADM:
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Originally posted by KIRBY098:
I'll be behind the rock you just jumped past.
Yep, you'll be behind the rock I just passed, only thing is, you're dead.
That's why it's necesary. Your arrogance is astounding.
Because you get killed while hiding out, doesn't mean the rest of us do. If this tactic doesn't work for you, oh well. Get better at using it, just like I had to learn the close range jumping headshot without a scope.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966578] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:00 |
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quote:
Originally posted by KIRBY098:
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Originally posted by ADM:
quote:
Originally posted by KIRBY098:
I'll be behind the rock you just jumped past.
Yep, you'll be behind the rock I just passed, only thing is, you're dead.
That's why it's necesary. Your arrogance is astounding.
Because you get killed while hiding out, doesn't mean the rest of us do. If this tactic doesn't work for you, oh well. Get better at using it, just like I had to learn the close range jumping headshot without a scope.
I guess you were too uptight to note the joke I made about the rock. Just because you want to be better... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
If you are referring to me getting killed by a useless tactic (Not for all, but when used against me) then you haven't got a clue about how I play so don't talk BS.
You want arrogance, this is arrogance; you spelt necessary wrong.
[ September 20, 2002, 09:02: Message edited by: ADM ]
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966577] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:20 |
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Good for you, now you can be the self proclaimed master of the English language too. I also think it's ironic that it says you modified the message you wrote. Did you spell something incorrectly?
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966576] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:26 |
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Originally posted by ADM:
The better sniper should automaticly adjust to the gameplay. That's why there is no need to mention the differences of real gameplay as it's a requirement to be entered into the 'very good' category.
You spelled "automatically" wrong.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966575] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:36 |
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Originally posted by KIRBY098:
Good for you, now you can be the self proclaimed master of the English language too. I also think it's ironic that it says you modified the message you wrote. Did you spell something incorrectly?
I modified the message adding that bit..
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966574] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:40 |
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quote:
Originally posted by KIRBY098:
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Originally posted by ADM:
The better sniper should automaticly adjust to the gameplay. That's why there is no need to mention the differences of real gameplay as it's a requirement to be entered into the 'very good' category.
You spelled "automatically" wrong.
I was using that not to show off English (Which I'm not the best at), it was to show you what arrogance really is. My posts were to show my opinion.
The reason I call myself a sniping master is because I was in HS, which was the clan of 'Sniping Masters'. Which you thought would be necessary to bring up.
[ September 20, 2002, 09:42: Message edited by: ADM ]
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966572] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:47 |
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Yes, they are very good. You are too, I've seen you play. But we disagree on some key definitions of what sniping, in the context of this game, really is. I understand that this game does not reflect real sniping. I have never seen a game that does. I personally prefer to keep it as close to the real thing as possible. A "real world" sniper hides and strikes from afar without being seen.
I suppose that if I was going for most kills in a game, I would use your tactics. I prefer the kill/death ratio that reflects I didn't get hit once, and was never seen. I love to hear n00bs scream in anguish and claim I have an aimbot. I absolutely love it.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966571] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:49 |
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Originally posted by Javaxcx:
Last I checked this was refering to sniper tactics, not the correct spelling of "automatically".
Thanks for interfering, we really needed that.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966570] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:51 |
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Originally posted by Javaxcx:
Last I checked this was refering to sniper tactics, not the correct spelling of "automatically".
I'd like to help people with tactics but KIRBY098 likes to be aggresive against me all the time.
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| Best Sniping spots! [message #-966569] |
Fri, 20 September 2002 02:53 |
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quote:
Originally posted by KIRBY098:
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Originally posted by Javaxcx:
Last I checked this was refering to sniper tactics, not the correct spelling of "automatically".
Thanks for interfering, we really needed that.
Your welcome, any time you two want to get back on topic without these petty insults.
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