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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375417 is a reply to message #375378]

Sun, 08 March 2009 06:43

Genesis2001
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SSnipe wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 22:11

Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

Thanks for advice

but for now im start slow..like java

but quesiton with no flaming

which is the best tutorial to start first

http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/

Once you learn the basics of java, move onto C# which uses roughly the same syntax as java, different framework/runtime library though.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375440 is a reply to message #374044]

Sun, 08 March 2009 10:41

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Well written Pascal rivals C++ for speed, I'd say, only if the application is REALLY intensive would the differences show, and that doesn't need a runtime etc.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375449 is a reply to message #374044]

Sun, 08 March 2009 11:33

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RoShamBo wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 04:15

SSnipe wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 05:11

Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

java is not a good start. It's very bad.

How is it bad? many people like it and good first ting to learn

Zack wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 06:43

SSnipe wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 22:11

Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

Once you learn the basics of java, move onto C# which uses roughly the same syntax as java, different framework/runtime library though.

But which tutrol should i do first out of those links? and thats what i plan on doing zack

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375457 is a reply to message #375449]

Sun, 08 March 2009 12:00

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SSnipe wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 18:33

RoShamBo wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 04:15

SSnipe wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 05:11

Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

java is not a good start. It's very bad.

How is it bad? many people like it and good first ting to learn

It's slow and bloated.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375482 is a reply to message #374044]

Sun, 08 March 2009 14:15

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Why do people keep playing down a language because its slow and bloated? He wants to learn the FUNDAMENTALS of programming, basic algorithms and how you actually do stuff in a sequencial way .

Hes not trying to make a super leet program, hes trying to learn the basics. Its rare to have someone just jump straight into c++ and begin doing a GUI using pointers and properly doing memory allocation.

TBH if you dont know anything about loops, arrays, variable types and what not your going to have one bitch of a time with c++

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375483 is a reply to message #375482]

Sun, 08 March 2009 14:19

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andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 21:15

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TBH if you dont know anything about loops, arrays, variable types and what not your going to have one bitch of a time with c++

I tried to teach myself 3 times with C++ and failed three times because I knew none of those topics.

I can now manage C++ but I would prefer not to write in it.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375507 is a reply to message #375482]

Sun, 08 March 2009 17:16

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andr3w282 wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 21:15

PHP then.

Most tutorials for C++ demonstrate all those topics in very simplistic terms.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375749 is a reply to message #374044]

Tue, 10 March 2009 17:39

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375761 is a reply to message #374044]

Tue, 10 March 2009 18:49

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Question How many math classes or which classes are needed tyo get a Bachelors in computer science

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375887 is a reply to message #375761]

Wed, 11 March 2009 20:28

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SSnipe wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 18:49

Question How many math classes or which classes are needed tyo get a Bachelors in computer science

That would be answered best by the college you attend, best answered also by a CS major as well or a counselor from your school/college.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375889 is a reply to message #375887]

Wed, 11 March 2009 20:31

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Zack wrote on Wed, 11 March 2009 20:28

SSnipe wrote on Tue, 10 March 2009 18:49

Question How many math classes or which classes are needed tyo get a Bachelors in computer science

That would be answered best by the college you attend, best answered also by a CS major as well or a counselor from your school/college.

That wont be for a while hehehe =]

for a bachelors for CS how many years of math did i need? i forgot the answer

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #376088 is a reply to message #374044]

Fri, 13 March 2009 13:22

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Know that you'll be taking at least Calulus I and II.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #385757 is a reply to message #374044]

Tue, 12 May 2009 20:33

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Sorry for long bump, some java programmers I was talking to was saying start slow write up some small scripts and batch and wel start off small, while others say jump right into (which I will in summer time no time for it now)

well let me ask this, is it kind alike school, where you can start of small but dont matter cause its all new? what I mean is even if i do write and learn small crap that lets say is nothing like lets say c++ but it gives me the feel of learning it just how moving a fake ps2 steering wheel gives u a feel of driving even tho its nothing related to real driving

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #385766 is a reply to message #374044]

Tue, 12 May 2009 21:23

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Do you want to see what the homework assignments were like in my Web Based Control interfaces course? A portion of it was teaching Java (a language I had never used before).

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #385774 is a reply to message #385766]

Tue, 12 May 2009 23:39

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Doitle wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 21:23

Do you want to see what the homework assignments were like in my Web Based Control interfaces course? A portion of it was teaching Java (a language I had never used before).

Sure,

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