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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214151 is a reply to message #194238] Sun, 20 August 2006 02:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What a dick.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214348 is a reply to message #214109] Mon, 21 August 2006 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 19 August 2006 20:33

Yeah, I'm trying to make sure that he makes things right with everyone, but I don't know if he could ever pay back all the money he stole from Zer0BS. $1080 is hard to come by for a person who obviously found it necessary to steal $80 from "EMINEM" and $38 from you.


I heard that he took an entire years hosting costs from someone but didn't know who and heard about eminem b4 the forums were wiped - Obviously I have received no refund, he has taken the {WG} name and is recruiting people as we speak - no doubt to find some new saps to steal from, forums are here if anyone has time/interest to post: http://thewargrounds.com/smf/index.php

It strikes me as a little ridiculous that someone can simply get away with this kind of crap.


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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214355 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know about where you come from, but up here, "Fraud" tends to get the authorities attention.
Re: Iam Sorry [message #214359 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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unfortunately when you put the word "online" in front of it nobody seems to care.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214360 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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one think i have to say is this:

what he did was wrong *BUT* what he did also opens your eyes to how easy it is to do that sort of stuff, heck i could create a program that could shutdown a server in a matter of minits if they didn't have some sort of udp flood protection. if no-one has learned that you *NEED* a firwall to stop this happening than you are stupid.

another way to stop this is simply to change the servers default port and block all of the others so no one would know what port it uses.

and he didn't steal from anybody as far as i know, the person was just scammed into giving their money.

and one last thing is: it may piss you off if this happens but the worst (in my case) that could happen is your computer/server computer crashes in which case you just restart.

i know {wg}sm0ke and he is a good guy i am even joining the clan but this doesn't mean i will give him money. i am not as stupid as other poeple have been. all the clan members are nice and frendly.

all humans in this world deserve a second chance, give him that second chance. i have and i have found out that he is not as bad as you think he is.
Re: Iam Sorry [message #214362 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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dan, open up your eyes, are you sure you want to join that clan?

btw, what is a udp flood?

and how did he 'steal' this money?


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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214363 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes i am sure,

a udp flood is when you send a massive amount of packets over the UDP protocol.

i dont know how he stole money.

andy, you have never talked to the clan members. how could you say somthing like that, you don't even know anything about them.

the WG clan is a place where somthing i do is actully apreciated.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214365 is a reply to message #214360] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:41


another way to stop this is simply to change the servers default port and block all of the others so no one would know what port it uses.


That will not stop anything.
In order for your Renegade client to connect t o the server it needs to know the port, and if it knows the port then you do as well.

help-linux wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:41

all humans in this world deserve a second chance, give him that second chance. i have and i have found out that he is not as bad as you think he is.

If you read the whole thread you should have noticed that he has already had a second, third and many more chances. If you want to be friends with someone who is a scammer and script kiddie, go right ahead.
Re: Iam Sorry [message #214366 is a reply to message #214363] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 15:49

yes i am sure,

a udp flood is when you send a massive amount of packets over the UDP protocol.

i dont know how he stole money.

andy, you have never talked to the clan members. how could you say somthing like that, you don't even know anything about them.

the WG clan is a place where somthing i do is actully apreciated.



ultimately crashing a server someone has paid for.

btw, you have a pm


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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214367 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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people like help-linux add fuel to the fire that is stupidity of renegade

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214368 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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his intentions arent bad, trust me, he wont do stuff like that.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214369 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux you are making a HUGE mistake. Save yourself now -- he is USING you because he doesn't have the knowledge to do anything himself. Soon you will join the dozens and dozens of people who have been screwed over by him.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214370 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what does he do to generally screw people up?

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214371 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He has a VERY bad temper (he's been in jail before) - he'll either steal your money or just piss you off with little or no provocation.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214372 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and this guy expects another chance?

stupid idiot


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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214374 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, everyone knows I am too kind hearted for my own good. :\ Of course if I find out that the attack my server just suffered within the last hour has anything to do with him, there will be hell to pay.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214376 is a reply to message #194238] Mon, 21 August 2006 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this guy should have the choice of leaving - he should be kicked out.

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214377 is a reply to message #214376] Mon, 21 August 2006 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just wondering, crimson, but in your A,B,C,D,E story, to revamp, A and C are jschultz and you said jschultz wrote a n00bstory about C cheating -- what was "C"'s nickname

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Re: Iam Sorry [message #214378 is a reply to message #214374] Mon, 21 August 2006 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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help-linux wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 17:41

one think i have to say is this:

what he did was wrong *BUT* what he did also opens your eyes to how easy it is to do that sort of stuff, heck i could create a program that could shutdown a server in a matter of minits if they didn't have some sort of udp flood protection. if no-one has learned that you *NEED* a firwall to stop this happening than you are stupid.

another way to stop this is simply to change the servers default port and block all of the others so no one would know what port it uses.


Fuck off, even if somebody fails to protect themselves properly it doesn't give ANYONE the right to attack somebody else's server.

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and he didn't steal from anybody as far as i know, the person was just scammed into giving their money.


I fail to see the difference between scamming and stealing, but w/e

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and one last thing is: it may piss you off if this happens but the worst (in my case) that could happen is your computer/server computer crashes in which case you just restart.


shit thats right, if it can be fixed then of course it doesn't matter.

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i know {wg}sm0ke and he is a good guy i am even joining the clan but this doesn't mean i will give him money. i am not as stupid as other poeple have been. all the clan members are nice and frendly.


no you don't and no he isn't, "all"?? you mean like the three people he has just recruited after the entire clan "left" by which I mean were forced to drop the name as sm0ke had control of the forums & urls

Don't call me stupid when I handed my money over to {WG} I had no idea it would be going to Schultz and it wasn't until after I had paid that I realised sm0ke was infact schultz.

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all humans in this world deserve a second chance, give him that second chance. i have and i have found out that he is not as bad as you think he is.


this fucktard has had his second chance and many more, all he deserves is a bullet to the temple

The sad thing is, I saw your name on the {WG} forums, which is one of the main reasons (along with Atomic) that I was prompted to inform people of his history - I wonder how long it will take until he fucks you over.


Crimson wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:01

Well, everyone knows I am too kind hearted for my own good. :\ Of course if I find out that the attack my server just suffered within the last hour has anything to do with him, there will be hell to pay.


Crimson, be honest here - you KNOW it was him, whether it is possible to proove it or not.


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help-linux wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:41

i know {wg}sm0ke and he is a good guy i am even joining the clan but this doesn't mean i will give him money. i am not as stupid as other poeple have been. all the clan members are nice and frendly.

all humans in this world deserve a second chance, give him that second chance. i have and i have found out that he is not as bad as you think he is.

You are an IDIOT. There's nothing else I can say. Seriously, this guy is a con. He knows what the fuck he's doing. Do you not think he's going to be nice and do little things here and there for you, so he can sucker you into something big where he benefits? I mean, seriously, wake up. People are greedy. People are evil. To trust someone like that who has been given several chances by so many people ans screwing them over so many times... it's obvious he's not going to change.


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it annoys me that people do this sort of stuff.

this guy who posted this has (IMO) succeeded in what he wanted to do by opening up this topic, which is to annoy people within the renegade community and cause arguments.

from what i have read he is doing, he basically hacked, which, i think, is against the laws in most countries, and isn't just morally wrong, but could land the asshole in jail.


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the17doctor wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:22

it annoys me that people do this sort of stuff.

this guy who posted this has (IMO) succeeded in what he wanted to do by opening up this topic, which is to annoy people within the renegade community and cause arguments.

from what i have read he is doing, he basically hacked, which, i think, is against the laws in most countries, and isn't just morally wrong, but could land the asshole in jail.


my intention in bumping this topic was to make people aware of him, especially as he is currently attempting to recruit yet more people that he an take advantage of.

Hacking a server is not going to land you in jail, stealing thousands of dollars could.


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lets only hope that he does get sent down for this.

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the17doctor wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 18:22

it annoys me that people do this sort of stuff.

this guy who posted this has (IMO) succeeded in what he wanted to do by opening up this topic, which is to annoy people within the renegade community and cause arguments.

from what i have read he is doing, he basically hacked, which, i think, is against the laws in most countries, and isn't just morally wrong, but could land the asshole in jail.


my intention in bumping this topic was to make people aware of him, especially as he is currently attempting to recruit yet more people that he an take advantage of.

Hacking a server is not going to land you in jail, stealing thousands of dollars could.


Could? If you have enough information on him and a paper trail of said fraud, it WILL land him in jail. At least, in court, where he'd be found guilty (hopefully).


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Sniper_De7 wrote on Mon, 21 August 2006 16:07

Just wondering, crimson, but in your A,B,C,D,E story, to revamp, A and C are jschultz and you said jschultz wrote a n00bstory about C cheating -- what was "C"'s nickname


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