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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318207 is a reply to message #317857] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 16:33   |
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well you know, caveman is right. atleast for the time being if you want the best machine that you can have now and not buy a "decent" machine and wait for amd to fix their problems with quads you should look into intel.
but if you do choose to go with amd duals and wait for the quads to be out there, then like i said before get the 6000x2 or 6400x2 and stick to that mvp motherboard as it will fully support all amd cpus. while the m2n32 will slow down the quads since its front bus is just over half as fast as the quads can go.
besides mvp is only like 40$ more than the m2n32 and it is a better board, when it comes to transfer rates, to the ram frequencies it can support, and mvp has better built in heat dissipators that will cool it down almost twice as good as the m2n32 board
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318216 is a reply to message #317857] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 17:05 |
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yeah those two look good. but like i said i am not the only person on these forums that knows about parts and such. you should explore all options... check out the bang for the buck with intel aswell. i would hate for you to come back and blame me for your computer costing too much and not outperforming others.
question, does newegg ship to canada? that ram looks soo good.... 
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318230 is a reply to message #317857] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 19:00 |
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Yeah, there was even cheaper ram I saw. I think the lowest i saw was a 2g stick for $35. But It didn't have many reveiws or anything so I decided not to go for it. Plus didn't have any kind of heat spreader or sink.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318235 is a reply to message #317857] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 19:34 |
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DDR2 Ram prices are dropping a lot, since the new DDR3 is dropping too.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318252 is a reply to message #318217] |
Wed, 20 February 2008 22:44 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 20 February 2008 18:15 |
| Romaner wrote on Wed, 20 February 2008 18:05 |
question, does newegg ship to canada? that ram looks soo good....
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They don't, unfortunately. We're stuck with tigerdirect, and NCIX.
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They "may" be starting "sometime" in the future, loosely according to some post on their forum site (that I can't find offhand).
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #318760 is a reply to message #317857] |
Sun, 24 February 2008 12:12 |
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I have a question about RAM. When you have a mobo that says it uses DDR2 1066, the 1066 is just the speed of the tranfer, right? So can you use DDR2 800 in that mobo?
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #319750 is a reply to message #319711] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 03:37 |
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That PSU looks good. If you're not after it for the MIR price, at the default price range, I'd step it up to the PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610. It's slightly more expensive and rated slightly lower, but it has 49A on a single +12V rail (with those triple rails, you don't add them up and get the total becuase it doesn't work that way), and better quality (though Antec's good too). That's more preference though. That PSU you selected is good, especially if the MIR proce is honored by Antec.
For the HDD, 70GB more for an extra $5.00 here.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074
BTW, if you're overclocking, I have to again reccomend dropping the 6400+ and going with a 5000+ or 5400+. They're both virtually the same chip except the 6400+ is clocked a bit higher. That extra speed can asily be equaled by overclocking the other two, and the 6400+ doesn't have as much overclocking headroom. It'll save you a third of the price on the CPU.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #319822 is a reply to message #317857] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 13:15 |
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #319831 is a reply to message #319750] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 13:33 |
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| Chuck Norris wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 05:37 |
That PSU looks good. If you're not after it for the MIR price, at the default price range, I'd step it up to the PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610. It's slightly more expensive and rated slightly lower, but it has 49A on a single +12V rail (with those triple rails, you don't add them up and get the total becuase it doesn't work that way), and better quality (though Antec's good too). That's more preference though. That PSU you selected is good, especially if the MIR proce is honored by Antec.
For the HDD, 70GB more for an extra $5.00 here.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074
BTW, if you're overclocking, I have to again reccomend dropping the 6400+ and going with a 5000+ or 5400+. They're both virtually the same chip except the 6400+ is clocked a bit higher. That extra speed can asily be equaled by overclocking the other two, and the 6400+ doesn't have as much overclocking headroom. It'll save you a third of the price on the CPU.
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I didn't see a 610 on newegg. There's a 750 and a 360.
I've never overclocked anything before. Are there good tutorials on overclocking those specififc processors then?
And as for the vid card, it's supposed to come factory overclocked so I wonder if that includes the fan. I'll have to look at the reveiws again and see if they say anything.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #319921 is a reply to message #319831] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 09:35 |
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It's there. It's the same PSU I have.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703005
That specific 8800 GT is fine. I have it too. The fan is just about DEAD SILENT (that is not an exaggerration). The cooling is better than stock, and even though the fan is only at 30% (the stock cooling is at 29%), my temperatures range from 49C idle to about 60C load (I do have two fans blowing on the side of the card though). It blows some air out the back of the case, but not all. It uses a cooling solution similar to the 7900 GTX, except it's a bit smaller, but that's compensated by using cooper heatpipes (I believe the 7900 GTXs used aluminum). The only problem I've heard about the fan from those reviews is that it seems to be too close to the plastic shroud and it clicks against it, but mine doesn't. Most people saying that seemed to increased the fan speed (I didn't, becuase it doesn't need it and that just makes it louder).
As for overclocking, it's both simple and complex. A monkey could do it, but you still have to know what you're doing. You can save either money, or time and trouble (but if you're experienced, you can save both). If you just want to buy the faster chip and be done with it without worrying about screwing around with and perfecting/tweaking a good overclock, and are willing to pay extra for the 6400+, then save the time and trouble and go with that. If you want to save money, the 5000+ and 5400+ are basically the same chip that be turned into a 6400+ with changing a few settings. Depends on what you want. I know overclocking isn't for everyone, so it's up to you. During my last build, I told myself I wasn't interested in it since I've never done it before, but with the Core 2 Duos (which is what I went with), you'd be wasting it not to, so I'm glad I tried it.
Here's a guide on the basics to give you an idea what's it like to decide if you want to go with it or not.
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1804
Basically, overclcoking AMD and Intel is the same. The CPUs speed is determined by it's mulitplier multiplied by it's FSB (front side bus). Since MOST CPUs have their multiplier locked, you have to raise the FSB. This requires decent RAM since your RAM has to run faster as you raise your FSB, since FSB is the speed at which your CPU and RAM communicate. And thus, by simply raising the FSB seting in your motherboard BIOS, you raise the CPUs speed. Voltage and heat are factors, but if you're not going for an extreme overclock, they're usually not big factors.
In the end though, you won't go wrong wither way. You'll end up with a good performing PC.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #320110 is a reply to message #320006] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 00:50 |
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It's an SLi certified PSU, so...
The amount of +12V rails is mostly irrelevant to the number of video cards it can connect to and power. The whole thing stemmed when an optional regulation came about not to put more than so many (19?) amps on a single rail. Most PSUs followed the regulation, and gave the PSU more +12V Amps by making multiple rails. Marketing uses the "more is better" to make them sound better than old single rail PSUs, but it's not so. Read their website.
http://www.pcpower.com/technology/myths/
49 amps is actually very huge. Remember, multiple rail PSUs don't get a total +12V rating by adding them all up (it's actually more like half to two-thirds the total or something). As for that PSU, it has 2 PCI Express connectors. One is a 6-pin connector and another is a 6+2 (6 or 8) pin connector.
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| Re: Building comp (parts) [message #327738 is a reply to message #317857] |
Thu, 24 April 2008 19:42 |
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I have a 5000+, and I love it. Nice and fast, and not even overclocked.
Plus, why the hell do the heatsinks of graphics cards always seem to have the face of some chick on them?
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