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i dont understand one thing, are those girls in school? how do they get their education? or are they home schooled by their mom, like the waterboy movie?? cause i mean if they do go to a public school how is it that nobody ever told them "your mom is retarded and full of shit" or do they just ignore everything they hear that doesnt come out of their parents mouth. oh and as for their dad having a swastika as his companies logo, i wish i seen his his company vehicle driving around so i could smash something into his windows and his fucking face. and if those kids are in a public school then chances are the community accepts them as they are so then something is wrong with the community aswell.
a few weeks ago i was walking into the mall and seen this skater kid with a swastika tatoo on his neck, boy was it fun beating the shit out of him with his own skateboard lol
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247560 is a reply to message #247478] |
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| tzarmind wrote on Wed, 28 February 2007 18:27 |
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"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white, said Lynx."
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Racist and a bit of special {cough]edd[/cough].
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"We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."
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They will do so by dying alone.
I hate stupid people like this, {/sarcasm]oh no his skin color is darker/lighter than mine he must be a horrible person.[/sarcasm]
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I could easily enough mistake you for a special needs kid after reading your post.
It's not a case of "DURR BROWN MUST BE HORRIBLE PERSON" it's more a case of the ideals they were exposed to from a young age by their mother who also would have been exposed to similar ideals at a young age.
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So you are telling us that if you mother were to have told you the all races besides your own was horrible and you should kill them all, you would? See I don’t listen to everything people tell me to do/believe, but apparently you think that regardless you well believe what your parents think, or am I misunderstanding what you meant.
Also the sarcasm tag might have indicated something.
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247582 is a reply to message #247553] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 12:05 |
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| tzarmind wrote on Thu, 01 March 2007 11:10 |
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Didn't sound like he was joking.
And, I'd say they're pretty stupid if they're dumb enough to BELEIVE their mother. Obviusly they've never read a history book, or "conviently skipped" the World War II parts...
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If you had any idea what ideals inflicted on a person from a young age can mean then you wouldn't come across as a moron.
Take Christianity for example, if your tought Christian ideals from a young you'll likely go through life being Christian and not overly questioning it (ie: faith). Like some Christians don't think Dinosaurs existed even though there are fossils. It's the same thing with history books to them.
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Germany suffers today because of idiots like this. The few cancerous people like these corrupt the image of Germany.
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They are actually from America, generally the proper order is read then post rather than make assumptions on an image in a post that wasn't even part in the op. Nationalism of the type seen in Germany isn't specifically German, but Hitler is a symbol of that form nationalism, that's why they have Hitler on their T-shirts. Beacuse they are American they aren't tarnishing Germany's image.
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indeed...
plus, i doubt that hitler killed just one single jew himself.
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Yeah, but you have to look at the fact he ordered the death of 6 million odd jews.
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1: Uh, no. That's not true. Infact, did you know a lot of the people who are athiests turned athiest BECAUSE they were taught Christianity (if not had it shoved down their throat)? I myself am a Christian, and was taught Christianity at a young age. However, I still have my own views of it, and I don't follow EVERYTHING I was taught, nor what the Church told me. So I may not agree with people turning athiest when they're taught Christianity, but it does show that they don't always follow what they're taught. If you BLINDLY follow, then you are either a fool, or have 0 commen sense. And what the heck? What about Dinosaurs? I don't much see where that fit into this conversation, unless you're again generilizing Christians. In which case, you need to gain a bit of commen sense.
2: He didn't say "These people from Germany are making the Germans look bad", now did he? No, he didn't. There goes your entire paragraph.
To be honest, I agree with IronBalls, though. Even though they're not from Germany, most people will see them as Germans or something. But they still "beleive" (More like brainwashed to beleive) in a (bad) German idea. Most people will associate them with nazi's (Since that's what they are), then associate that with them being Germans- Then associate THAT with Germany in whole. Which is pretty dumb, so if people are infact doing this, they, too, need to get some commen sense. It's sad but it's true, the idiots tend to give the thing in whole a bad name. Hence why America has a bad reputation (Even amongst it's own population... Mostly teens it seems)- Just because it has some idiots, apperently must mean ALL of us are idiots 
3: When he said "I doubt that hitler killed just one single jew himself.", I don't think he meant "He's not a bad guy cuz he never killed a Jew...", lol
Also, I agree with Jerad... Those "sarcasm tags" were there for a reason...
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247627 is a reply to message #245810] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 16:08 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Thu, 01 March 2007 11:48 |
| tzarmind wrote on Wed, 28 February 2007 18:27 |
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"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white, said Lynx."
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Racist and a bit of special {cough]edd[/cough].
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"We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."
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They will do so by dying alone.
I hate stupid people like this, {/sarcasm]oh no his skin color is darker/lighter than mine he must be a horrible person.[/sarcasm]
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I could easily enough mistake you for a special needs kid after reading your post.
It's not a case of "DURR BROWN MUST BE HORRIBLE PERSON" it's more a case of the ideals they were exposed to from a young age by their mother who also would have been exposed to similar ideals at a young age.
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So you are telling us that if you mother were to have told you the all races besides your own was horrible and you should kill them all, you would? See I don’t listen to everything people tell me to do/believe, but apparently you think that regardless you well believe what your parents think, or am I misunderstanding what you meant.
Also the sarcasm tag might have indicated something.
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Don't self validate. If you are conditioned from a very young age with certain ideals. It is much, much more likely that you will perceive those ideals as morally right.
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1: Uh, no. That's not true. Infact, did you know a lot of the people who are athiests turned athiest BECAUSE they were taught Christianity (if not had it shoved down their throat)? I myself am a Christian, and was taught Christianity at a young age. However, I still have my own views of it, and I don't follow EVERYTHING I was taught, nor what the Church told me. So I may not agree with people turning athiest when they're taught Christianity, but it does show that they don't always follow what they're taught. If you BLINDLY follow, then you are either a fool, or have 0 commen sense. And what the heck? What about Dinosaurs? I don't much see where that fit into this conversation, unless you're again generilizing Christians. In which case, you need to gain a bit of commen sense.
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Way to go completely misinterpreting what I said. It was a comparison. And although you didn't quite manage to pick up on the language I used which specifically didn't imply all people raised as Christians continued to remain Christian. A lot of Christians DO NOT believe Dinosaurs existed and believe fossils are the work of the devil or are just falsified. Basically the girls believe that (assuming they are holocaust deniers) the history books are falsified and biased (like some Christians would view Dinosaurs). Note it was a comparison, not a generalization or a jab at Christianity.
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2: He didn't say "These people from Germany are making the Germans look bad", now did he? No, he didn't. There goes your entire paragraph.
To be honest, I agree with IronBalls, though. Even though they're not from Germany, most people will see them as Germans or something. But they still "beleive" (More like brainwashed to beleive) in a (bad) German idea. Most people will associate them with nazi's (Since that's what they are), then associate that with them being Germans- Then associate THAT with Germany in whole. Which is pretty dumb, so if people are infact doing this, they, too, need to get some commen sense. It's sad but it's true, the idiots tend to give the thing in whole a bad name. Hence why America has a bad reputation (Even amongst it's own population... Mostly teens it seems)- Just because it has some idiots, apperently must mean ALL of us are idiots
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He actually said it was damaging Germany's image. They aren't German and do not represent Germany. They do represent a set political ideals that were once enforced in Germany by the Nazi party. People will not associate that with the present day Germany but will associate it with Nazi Germany of the past.
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3: When he said "I doubt that hitler killed just one single jew himself.", I don't think he meant "He's not a bad guy cuz he never killed a Jew...", lol
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It wasn't intended as jab at him, and I didn't interpret as "he is not a bad guy". I was just trying to put across it was a rather pointless addition to the thread as Hitler did order the death of 6 million odd jews.
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Also, I agree with Jerad... Those "sarcasm tags" were there for a reason...
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It was very poor and unintelligent use of sarcasm. I was just explaining that's not how people with a racist mindset think. They have the ideal firmly placed within their thought process that certain races are inferior to their own.
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Why did you think I did not read the article?
You said, "Beacuse they are American they aren't tarnishing Germany's image."
WHAT??? When someone thinks about Hitler and all the bad shit he has done, they think of Germany and Germans.
While it does not tarnish my positive view of Germans, what would the survivors of the death camps think? You think they don't know about these 2 girls? They hear and they remember.
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The people that survived death camps were largely German citizens. It was in Germany that jews were first purged by the Nazi regime. They especially are less likely to see Prussian Blue (those girls) and think "FUKEN GERMANY  ."
They'll associate it with 'Nazi Germany.' Not present day Germany.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247758 is a reply to message #245810] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 09:50 |
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You people are fucking stupid to not think that environment does A LOT to form a person's beliefs. If their mother conditioned them from when they were young, you tend to listen. You don't just automatically assume, "hey, mom's wrong".
If you just think it's as easy as "I don't have to listen to her" then you're a fucking moron. If you choose to ignore your parents, then you have issues. It's not the girls' fault that their mother has taught them something very twisted. I just wish you morons could even grasp that very simple concept.
The reason why you morons think it's so easy to see that racism and hate is wrong because you were *gasp* TAUGHT that by your parents. Maybe your parents didn't say to you "skin color doesn't matter", but your parents' attitudes towards those of different races, you saw, and you emulated.
These girls weren't taught that way. They were taught to hate those of a different race. Completely different upbringings, and completely different outcomes. It's incredibly easy to learn the difference between right and wrong. The girls know the difference between right and wrong... they just have a disturbing view of what's right and wrong thanks to their mother.
I mean... what tzarmind and I are saying isn't a very difficult concept to grasp. It's actually quite easy to understand.
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247773 is a reply to message #245810] |
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I'd maybe agree- IF it wasn't something like hitler or nazism or whatever it is they beleive in.
First off, you learn about this stuff in history, and how it was wrong. So they either must not pick up a history book, or their mom decides to tell them everything and they don't question it.
To be honest, it's human's instinct to question what they are told. Usually it's better to than blindly follow what you are told. Maybe you don't realize, but the majority of teens DO question what they are told. Why? Well, if I'm not mistaken, it's around the time you become a teen that your brain develops it's "commen sense" part. Although it still isn't fully developed, it develops somewhat, hence why teens pretty much always have to be in an argument and whatnot.
Therefore, they either have a brain disorder, or decide not to listen to their commen sense and blindly follow their mother/father.
If the latter, then they truely are fools.
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247781 is a reply to message #247773] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 12:43 |
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| Cabal8616 wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 13:52 |
I'd maybe agree- IF it wasn't something like hitler or nazism or whatever it is they beleive in.
First off, you learn about this stuff in history, and how it was wrong. So they either must not pick up a history book, or their mom decides to tell them everything and they don't question it.
To be honest, it's human's instinct to question what they are told. Usually it's better to than blindly follow what you are told. Maybe you don't realize, but the majority of teens DO question what they are told. Why? Well, if I'm not mistaken, it's around the time you become a teen that your brain develops it's "commen sense" part. Although it still isn't fully developed, it develops somewhat, hence why teens pretty much always have to be in an argument and whatnot.
Therefore, they either have a brain disorder, or decide not to listen to their commen sense and blindly follow their mother/father.
If the latter, then they truely are fools.
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You just don't understand this concept, do you?
How can you question something when you have no reason to challenge what you're taught? If these girls went to public schools, then I can say I'd agree, but these girls have nothing to compare their ideas to. They're kept in a White Supremest environment. All they know and see is what they're taught.
The thing is, these girls are now just barely 15, and I doubt they've given much of a chance to experience different viewpoints. You can't expect a child to disagree with their parents when they're only surrounded by that viewpoint.
Think of it this way... if you're home schooled by very strict, Christian parents. All you have been taught is Christianity and Christian morals. You never hear of any questioning whether or not God exists. You're completely surrounded by Christian teachings. Do you think you're going to, on your own, suddenly ask yourself, "is there really a God?" Very unlikely that you would. Why? Because you're completely surrounded by God-filled teachings.
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| Cabal8616 wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 12:52 |
I'd maybe agree- IF it wasn't something like hitler or nazism or whatever it is they beleive in.
First off, you learn about this stuff in history, and how it was wrong. So they either must not pick up a history book, or their mom decides to tell them everything and they don't question it.
To be honest, it's human's instinct to question what they are told. Usually it's better to than blindly follow what you are told. Maybe you don't realize, but the majority of teens DO question what they are told. Why? Well, if I'm not mistaken, it's around the time you become a teen that your brain develops it's "commen sense" part. Although it still isn't fully developed, it develops somewhat, hence why teens pretty much always have to be in an argument and whatnot.
Therefore, they either have a brain disorder, or decide not to listen to their commen sense and blindly follow their mother/father.
If the latter, then they truely are fools.
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Okay, before you or any of your buddies post in this thread again. You should get a fucking clue. And on that note you should also stop pretending you know basic psychology.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247933 is a reply to message #247930] |
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| IronBalls wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 11:13 |
| tzarmind wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 07:11 |
| Cabal8616 wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 12:52 |
I'd maybe agree- IF it wasn't something like hitler or nazism or whatever it is they beleive in.
First off, you learn about this stuff in history, and how it was wrong. So they either must not pick up a history book, or their mom decides to tell them everything and they don't question it.
To be honest, it's human's instinct to question what they are told. Usually it's better to than blindly follow what you are told. Maybe you don't realize, but the majority of teens DO question what they are told. Why? Well, if I'm not mistaken, it's around the time you become a teen that your brain develops it's "commen sense" part. Although it still isn't fully developed, it develops somewhat, hence why teens pretty much always have to be in an argument and whatnot.
Therefore, they either have a brain disorder, or decide not to listen to their commen sense and blindly follow their mother/father.
If the latter, then they truely are fools.
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Okay, before you or any of your buddies post in this thread again. You should get a fucking clue. And on that note you should also stop pretending you know basic psychology.
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What Cabal is trying to say is that human beings come with a conscience...the inner guilt that wells up when someone does a wrong thing.
The thing is, will these girls question their mom when they finally see the opposite argument? How will they react when they see pictures of mass graves and gas chambers and piles of shoes of the victims? Will they stick on to their Hitler or even come close to accept the truth?
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Stop posting in this thread until you become at least partially informed.
If you want to educate yourself on any of the subjects/concepts brought up in my posts, look around: http://wikipedia.org.
this is more common than the self-diagnosis of asperger's in the goon population how is it obsCURE FUCKKK
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Common sense is not part of the uman nature, its something you get taught by your mum and dad. If you don't get it, its called indcotrination and thats exactely what these girls have had. Their minds are so stuck in their believes that nothing will convince them otherwise.
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| Re: Young German Singers Spread Racist Hate [message #247996 is a reply to message #247939] |
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| Ghostshaw wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 13:10 |
Common sense is not part of the uman nature, its something you get taught by your mum and dad. If you don't get it, its called indcotrination and thats exactely what these girls have had. Their minds are so stuck in their believes that nothing will convince them otherwise.
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OMFG... SOMEONE GETS IT. HALLELUJAH!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, etc... these forums actually have some hope left in them.
As for the whole "you have a conscience" argument... it has so many flaws, it's not even funny. Everybody has their own set values. One's moral code is learned, you're not automatically born with it.
As Ghostshaw said, it's indoctrination. You're pretty much brainwashed into thinking the way you do. Your conscience doesn't automatically know right from wrong. It's a learned behavior. Just like a dog doesn't know that it shouldn't do its business on the carpet immediately. It has to be trained. The same thing goes with your moral code.
Honestly, it's quite a simple concept. I fail to see your logic in disagreeing.
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