| Doom 3! [message #107118] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 12:38   |
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YSLMuffins
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Well, games can sell well and still be crappy only for a short while. Sales would drop dramatically after they're released.
And this use of OMG LOL dialect has long ago become extremely trite. Now, it just makes you and the person you're mocking look stupid, because it is just incomprehensible.
-YSLMuffins
The goddess of all (bread products)
See me online as yslcheeze
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| Doom 3! [message #107130] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 14:13 |
phlakaton
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To you guys who like to get shit for free... take this angle if you can understand it.
Suppose you make something that took a few years. Perhaps you spent a bunch of time after hours (no overtime). You gave up huge chunks of time for this thing you made that you could have spent with your wife or kid or God forbid --- your rotten hideous girlfriend.
Now put it on a shelf to sell. Can't wait to see a nice bonus for all the work... maybe even royalties from how many profits it makes... well screw you buddy... some punk just stole it and you didn't get a goddamn cent. Oh wait... another little bastard just downloaded it for nothing... no $$ for you again. Oh wait... does this even make sense to you dipshits.
I won't waste anymore time on this subject because some of you are never going to learn until you get shit shoveled on you and the tables are turned... what a waste of air.
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| Doom 3! [message #107135] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 14:24 |
tooncy
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Crtl-7 to that phlakaton.
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| Doom 3! [message #107157] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 15:35 |
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:rolleyes:
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Doom 3! [message #107181] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 16:29 |
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YSLMuffins
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Well, it doesn't seem like there can be a win-win solution to satisfy both sides. Consumers don't want to waste their money, but game companies want money for their hard work.
(A) Team works on game. Game turns out to be crappy, but everyone buys it anyway just to try it. It turns out that they don't like it. Nothing much to do except lend it to a friend or use it as a coaster. Consumers feel like they've been swindled out of money. (Like I said, this could only go on for so long, since people would get a hint and people would stop buying it.) Losers? The people who bought the game; the team got their money.
(B) Team makes a great game, but everyone downloads it instead of buying it. Naturally the team is the loser in this case; they never got the money they deserved for making such a great game.
Consumers want to try things before they buy it. Game designers and company want to be paid for their work. Both desires are legitimate, but while there is always the possiblity of a win-win, there is more of a possibly of a loser for one side. Neither desires are truly wrong, but encouraging a try and buy attitude is the best way to go.
-YSLMuffins
The goddess of all (bread products)
See me online as yslcheeze
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| Doom 3! [message #107182] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 16:41 |
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Consumers can get their money back by returning the game to the shop too.
Comments on '(A)': That's funny, because Renegade turned out to be crappy but most of us are still enjoying the damn thing and most of us have been playing for over two years now.
I have nothing to say on '(B)', but I have something to say on your conclusion.
That's why demos were invented my friend! Yes, most of them will not show most aspects of the game, personally the Renegade demo was fine, I even thought that some of the bugs were funny, and that's why I own two copies of Renegade today.
And if demos aren't enough, then rent the damn game!
Even if something is crappy I'm always going to enjoy it, why? Because I bought it. All the matters is: I got my preview, I've played the demo and it's my own problem if I got ripped off or not. Why? Because I had a chance to experience the game before.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Doom 3! [message #107211] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 18:45 |
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prox
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I'm dead tired of buying games. I have over 15 games I BOUGHT since 2001. Let's say the average cost was $39.99 (which is what the cost for a newly realeased game is on my local software store,) that's about $450. I only liked about 1/3 of them, and those are $300 I'm never getting back  ... I just went to the software store, checked out what's new and cool and picked up 2 or 3 games every once in a while, BUT I CAN'T SELL THEM CAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO BUY THEM.
First game I've ever downloaded was doom 3, and just because its about $60 with tax, that's crazy. Now I have games I never bought, like GTA: Vice City, Final Fantasy VII, max payne 2, etc. I'm done with buying games!!!!!!!!111oneoen!
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| Doom 3! [message #107215] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 18:59 |
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That's your own problem.
Face it: your a thief, a bitch of the society, nobody likes you.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Doom 3! [message #107222] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 20:19 |
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IceSword7
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That's your own problem.
Face it: your a thief, a bitch of the society, nobody likes you.
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| Doom 3! [message #107240] |
Wed, 11 August 2004 21:57 |
PiMuRho
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Download a game to try then buy it! Even the people who crack them say that!
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Well, shit. If they say it, it must be ok!
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| Doom 3! [message #107261] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 00:14 |
PiMuRho
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That's a bullshit argument. If games were half the price they are now, people would still pirate them. They'd also still claim that they were too expensive.
Publishers set game prices, not developers. Who do you think piracy affects most?
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| Doom 3! [message #107267] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 01:18 |
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IceSword7
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And an apple and computer game are 2 completly different things. I might not be wasting my money on this computer game so i could buy the apple.
The apple maybe needed to live...the computer game isnt.
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Uh... So you steal what you don't need and pay for what you do need? I'm not sure how that justifies you.
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Uhhh Im not sure exactly where i was goin with that one.
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| Doom 3! [message #107301] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 05:57 |
PiMuRho
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Er, that was my point. You're punishing the developer for something the publisher is doing.
Also, I *am* a developer, so it is affecting me personally.
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| Doom 3! [message #107310] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 07:42 |
phlakaton
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you can rationalise it any way you like. It's the same as stealing a candy bar from a corner store.
another way to avoid spending your money and getting a crap game is to do your homework. Read reviews and listen to other people who've bought it. Don't be fools and run right to the store... have some patience.
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| Doom 3! [message #107322] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 08:25 |
phlakaton
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I think killing yourself is a bit overzealous. Try meditation. There some very nice crane form tai chi breathing exercises out there.
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| Doom 3! [message #107328] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 09:14 |
AlostSOul
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My personal opinion is that doom did not have a great begining. Doom2 was better, but not graphic wise. I have a prescription to Gmr, Game Informer, Gamepro, and O.P.M (official playstation magazine). All of these game magazines have given Doom3 a four out of five star rating. I am willing to try a game with that kinda rating.
the only thing I can say is this: ROFL!!!!
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| Doom 3! [message #107366] |
Thu, 12 August 2004 10:45 |
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ViperFUD
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I have a prescription to Gmr, Game Informer, Gamepro, and O.P.M (official playstation magazine).
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hmm. maybe you can get a prescription for some STFU cream.
I think what is understood by everyone and agreed on by everyone is that downloading games is stealing them. No one is arguing this point. However, some people say they will continue to do it. Why? Cause they don't give a fuck about anyone else.
They'd rape pillage, steal, and kill if they could get away with it. Welcome to America; a land where people's morals are dictated by "what can I get away with?"
~Viper
And shepherds we shall be,
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from thy hand;
That our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
And we shall flow a river forth to thee,
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
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