10 General Ghost1988 73 wins / 1 losses 18,940

No way in the world he lost 1 game in 74. Impossible

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Originally posted by Devon:
That's not impossible. I've had similar stats in past resets... a hundred or so wins and one or two losses.

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Of course it's impossible. Even if you always do the best you can, sometimes winning is just not up to you. Often actually. Especially in games with, say 40 people.

Don't start whining and accuse people of cheating just because you don't know how to do early, devastating rushes. The fact is, that on most public servers 80\% of the participants are moronic newbies and winning against a team of those is not hard if you know what you're doing - even if your own team consists of nitwits.

On public servers.. no way at all. You're bound to lose a few to stupid people and you can't do everything.

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Originally posted by Devon:
Well I always play in 20 player games and as I said, I've had stats similar to that. Right now I have 34 wins/6 losses (haven't played all that much lately) and at least 4 of those losses were because of Ran6er... he knows exactly how I play and spoil my plans every time he's on the opposing team.

Don't start whining and accuse people of cheating just because you don't know how to do early, devastating rushes. The fact is, that on most public servers 80\% of the participants are moronic newbies and winning against a team of those is not hard if you know what you're doing - even if your own team consists of nitwits.

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God you must be dumb, I don't care what you say nobody no matter what you do, how good you are you are still going to lose some games. I am sure he found a way to dump out of losing games without a scratch. So many times I will blow a building or 2 up in the first 10 mins and have a huge lead, then something stupid happens making is lose. only losing 1 game in 70+ is REALLY FISHY

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God you must be dumb, I don't care what you say nobody no matter what you do, how good you are you are still going to lose some games. I am sure he found a way to dump out of losing games without a scratch. So many times I will blow a building or 2 up in the first 10 mins and have a huge lead, then something stupid happens making is lose. only losing 1 game in 70+ is REALLY FISHY

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Again: it's not impossible. He might have cheated, I don't know, but it's NOT IMPOSSIBLE to get those stats. All he needs to do is host his own server with too many people on it and he'll be the only one that doesn't lag. That way he can win almost every match he plays.

You're just like that guy Damicatz who kept saying that Planetshauns Orca mod was, without a doubt, impossible. You hve to get your head out of your rear end and realize that unlikely and impossible are not synonomous.

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Originally posted by Devon:
Again: it's not impossible. He might have cheated, I don't know, but it's NOT IMPOSSIBLE to get those stats. All he needs to do is host his own server with too many people on it and he'll be the only one that doesn't lag. That way he can win almost every match he plays.

You're just like that guy Damicatz who kept saying that Planetshauns Orca mod was, without a doubt, impossible. You hve to get your head out of your rear end and realize that unlikely and impossible are not synonomous.

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Who Gives a $hlt? The ladder system is a joke and always has been. Play the game, Have fun and get over it. Playing to improve your stats on the ladder is not the best way to enjoy the game. Have fun and forget about a point system that really means exactly nothing. Try playing on Gamespy or All Seeing Eye where there is not even a ladder to worry about.
Think FUN not Stats, After all fun is what games are for

These are the players that will watch a hotwire/tech run into the building while shooting uselessly at nothing in ther etank and do nothing about it. Or will never fix you when its needed, or rather shoot at an enemy building as an APC/HUMMER/BUGGY drives right past them. 1 name for somebody who does this is a player with the nick "Iranoob"

and i admit there is something fishy
it is really quite impossible to get such a win/lose ratio..
something must be very wrong........

anyway i think more and more cheats are appearing in renegade......
something like a aim bot or something like tat

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Originally posted by Devon:
Don't start whining and accuse people of cheating just because you don't know how to do early, devastating rushes. The fact is, that on most public servers 80\% of the participants are moronic newbies and winning against a team of those is not hard if you know what you're doing - even if your own team consists of nitwits.

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Did it ever occur to you that the 80\% also applies to you. Furthermore, the 20\% of non-n00bs also applies to the other team. And what about those times when the oppsing team has three/four times more experienced players than you do? The people aren't always evenly divided by skill level you know?

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Did it ever occur to you that the 80\% also applies to you.

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No it doesn't, since I'm not a moronic newbie. A small lesson in statistics: if you have 20 elements, a grand total of 100\% and 80\% of that is type A, and you know that element number 4 (or whatever) is type B, the chance of element number 4 to be type A is still 0. The possibility for any other element to be type A increases though.

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Furthermore, the 20\% of non-n00bs also applies to the other team. And what about those times when the oppsing team has three/four times more experienced players than you do? The people aren't always evenly divided by skill level you know?

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True, but that has only happened once or twice in all the months I've played Renegade except when I play against clannies.

I should point out that I only play on my own server which means I never have any lag which gives me and my team a significant edge. However, I don't create servers with ridiculous amounts of people - Renegade sets my maxplayers to 48, and I rarely host servers with more than 24 in order to keep the lag down.

He's playing in more than 24 player games man, he's in at least 32, most likely 40. He's averaging like 125 pts a game, which means he's either got incredible luck, or he's up to something fishy.

Sometimes that stupid thing that the high players do helps the team out. The one where they shoot the mrls at the hand the whole game, or use arties or whatever. If you have someone doing that, you have a steady stream of points coming in. I only hate in when there's like 4 MRLS or Arties doing it, it wastes all of your tanks.

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Originally posted by eae:
Did it ever occur to you that the 80\% also applies to you.

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I meant people in your team. Say if you have 10 people, then eight of them would be n00bs, one good player and then you.

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Originally posted by Devon:
True, but that has only happened once or twice in all the months I've played Renegade except when I play against clannies.

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And I refuse to believe that you can play 74 games and "encounter" good players on the opposing team in only one game. Even if you play on your own server and lag everyone else, good players are still good (and yes, n00bs are still n00bs, also).

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And I refuse to believe that you can play 74 games and "encounter" good players on the opposing team in only one game. Even if you play on your own server and lag everyone else, good players are still good (and yes, n00bs are still n00bs, also).

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Actually, on a very laggy server it won't matter how good you are. When you can't even walk through a door or around a corner because it lags too much then you can be Thresh himself, you'll still get whupped. Even slight lag can make you miss the MCT with C4 which has lost me a few games in the past.

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Originally posted by Devon:
Actually, on a very laggy server it won't matter how good you are. When you can't even walk through a door or around a corner because it lags too much then you can be Thresh himself, you'll still get whupped. Even slight lag can make you miss the MCT with C4 which has lost me a few games in the past.

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Yea, but then again, I don't see any people on the servers where you can't walk through the door. Most people have some limit to howmuch lag they can withstand without getting a headache.

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Originally posted by Frontrunner:
Who Gives a $hlt? The ladder system is a joke and always has been. Play the game, Have fun and get over it. Playing to improve your stats on the ladder is not the best way to enjoy the game. Have fun and forget about a point system that really means exactly nothing. Try playing on Gamespy or All Seeing Eye where there is not even a ladder to worry about.
Think FUN not Stats, After all fun is what games are for

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I agree! Have fun! If you focus on trying to win or getting high points, you are more likely to end up screwing up constantly. I've tried it myself until I realized that I was not really having fun but just trying to win.

"Do or do not. There is no try."

- Yoga