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Renegade Always.DAT [message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:15

bat66wat6
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Well my fabolous plan to simply make myself my own reticle has gone sideways. I followed a tutorial on Renhelp.net to make "Your own reticle"

Well i did not follow it exactly i admit but effectively it's the same thing. i used paint instead of photoshop and a program called dxtTools to transfer the bitmap reticle image into .dds format then as he said i put it into my Renegade/Data directory. But this just made my reticle dissapear leaving the middle dot in the middle! Angry

Angry

Dont Get It

So after many different attempts at it i decided to open up RenegadeEX and replace the original hd_reticle with my own one. But... basically the plan went sideways and as i tried desperately to first make my one work then try to revert back to the old one to fix my reticle the always.dat got damaged and went corrupt. Now when i go on Renegade there is no cursor! No background!

So i am asking for someone to copy and send me there Renegade/Data always.dat.

Thank you!

P.S:How do i really make my own reticle? What did i do wrong?

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300701 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:31

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The always.dat is far too large, you will need to reinstall.

Also, never add anything to the always.dat. If it doesn't work in the data folder that means you didn't make it right.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300705 is a reply to message #300701]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:38

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You can't make a recticle in Paint, you need to make it inside photoshop so you can apply the right settings and alpha blends to it.

EDIT: You could also just try copying the always.dat from the CD instead of reinstalling.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300716 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 10:07

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u can also use a program called "Gimp" or "The Gimp"(forget the exact name) I think there is a tutorial for it on renhelp but be advised I'm not sure it works on vista but on the good side The Gimp is FREE

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300723 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 10:15

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Remember Game-Maps.NET is your friend.

You can download a new copy of always.dat here.

Game-Maps.NET - Always.dat

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300724 is a reply to message #300705]

Mon, 03 December 2007 10:17

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Well thanks to my ingenuity i managed to fix it. Big Grin

Big Grin

I had to go and find the Renegade Image file then go into that and search through a shit lot of files to find the installation part of it then sift through that till i fould the Data part of it then find always.dat and copy/paste that into my existing Renegade/Data directory. Now it works perfectly well.

Phew Wow

Wow

But still even now that my Renegade is working i hate that stupid Reticle with it's dumb ass basic dot in the middle and circle round the outside.
I want to make my own one. So for that all i need is Photoshop. But to my surpise Sarcasm

Sarcasm

It is hard to find and download. Is there any chance you can give me a URL or file to download from?

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300730 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 10:48

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I've played this game for a year-and-a-half, and have yet to find any problem with the default reticle.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300732 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 10:52

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If you make it with paint, it wont work, use photoshop, one thing is the white background in paint counts as the rectile if you install the rectile, you need to use photoshop and kill off the white background

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300746 is a reply to message #300732]

Mon, 03 December 2007 11:22

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I killed of the white background when i made it. I reckon it;s the Alpha Channeling that he did in the tutorial (Whatever that is) that ruined it for me.

But you see that's just it. People put on a tutorial. No matter how good or interesting/usefull it is they never usually put the link for all the tools they are using down. e.g "Hello i'm going to use Photoshop for this tutorial". Not everyone has Photoshop and i don't. Even if i did i aint prepared to pay for the darn thing!

If your'e going to put a tutorial on and it requires a certain program then everyone who views and refers to it would be so much more appreciative if you just put a link to get it from or something. Huh

Huh

But still. That's the way things are. So then...where can i get this Photoshop from?

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300748 is a reply to message #300746]

Mon, 03 December 2007 11:29

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Photoshop.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300759 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 12:23

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http://www.game-maps.net/index.php?action=category&id=75

there it is top one on game-maps.com

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300810 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 15:01

cnc95fan
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Remake always.dat yourself.. LE > File > Export mod pkg. > always.dat

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300811 is a reply to message #300810]

Mon, 03 December 2007 15:02

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cnc95fan wrote on Mon, 03 December 2007 17:01

Remake always.dat yourself.. LE > File > Export mod pkg. > always.dat

Thats so wrong its not even funny.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300814 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 15:08

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Worked for me...

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300831 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 16:44

Dreganius
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I've made my own reticle already... If all else fails just PM me what you want it to look like and i'll send it to you.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300835 is a reply to message #300700]

Mon, 03 December 2007 16:57

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Photoshop isn't free, and I think it's actually quite expensive. The GIMP is free however, and it also has a plugin for dds files, though I don't remember where to get it. Huh

Huh

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Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300842 is a reply to message #300814]

Mon, 03 December 2007 17:09

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cnc95fan wrote on Mon, 03 December 2007 17:08

Worked for me...

For this to work you would need every file in the always.dat to be in your mod folder.

You cant pull a good copy of always.dat from the always.dat...LE reads all the renegade files from the both the always and m**.mix files.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300886 is a reply to message #300700]

Tue, 04 December 2007 00:31

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Oh yea, sorry, I left that out, i have an extracted version of Always.dat Razz

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #300889 is a reply to message #300886]

Tue, 04 December 2007 01:55

Scrin
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you need alpha channel in .dds to make it working....
also check this video... at time position 4:45
i want that reticle lol Sad

Sad

or how to hell troop made them
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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #301024 is a reply to message #300889]

Tue, 04 December 2007 14:41

bat66wat6
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If photoshop isn't free then f**k that! Sarcasm

Sarcasm

I know that these big company's need to make profit and everything but it really really pisses me off when you HAVE to have a certain program to be able to do something but you have to pay for it.
Just making a reticle should be able to be done in Paint or another free default windows program.

But hell. What can i do? Sneaky

Sneaky

Please. Try to pull the URL for the gimp....
But...even if i get the gimp the tutorial was made for doing the reticle in Photoshop.

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #301050 is a reply to message #301024]

Tue, 04 December 2007 15:46

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bat66wat6 wrote on Tue, 04 December 2007 15:41

If photoshop isn't free then f**k that! Sarcasm

Sarcasm

I know that these big company's need to make profit and everything but it really really pisses me off when you HAVE to have a certain program to be able to do something but you have to pay for it.
Just making a reticle should be able to be done in Paint or another free default windows program.

But hell. What can i do? Sneaky

Sneaky

Please. Try to pull the URL for the gimp....
But...even if i get the gimp the tutorial was made for doing the reticle in Photoshop.

I know there's a GIMP tutorial for something on RenHelp, and besides, the two programs shouldn't be much different if you can find the tools.

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #301193 is a reply to message #301050]

Wed, 05 December 2007 09:03

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I will try to google it and look around for it.
I hope i can just simply insert my bitmap Reticle i made in paint into GIMP alpha channel it then save as .dds because i relly don't wanna have to remake it...

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #301223 is a reply to message #301193]

Wed, 05 December 2007 11:16

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GIMP is shite!
I can't believe it! yet again another program that cannot save it in .dds format. I mean it saves it in all other formats except .dds!

IrFanview, saves all my images in any format except .dds to!
And RenegadeEx opens anything almost but cannot however save anything in any format!

I really really am agrivated now... Angry

Angry

I've had to resort to getting someone to make it for me. I have already PM'd someone who offered to make me one if i just told him what i wanted it to look like.

Shame really! I so so wanted to make my own Crying or Very sad

Crying or Very sad

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Re: Renegade Always.DAT [message #301251 is a reply to message #300700]

Wed, 05 December 2007 13:50

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You might want to try a little thing we call plugins.

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Thu, 06 December 2007 09:16

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And how is a "Plugin" going to help me make a reticle?
I mean the last plugin i tried was f**king s**t!

I went through every version of the LUA plugin for my FDS and even used a flaming ToolManager to install it 4 me but it still did not work!

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