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[Coding] RenRem [message #255010] Sat, 21 April 2007 17:57 Go to next message
Genesis2001
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Looking for some help on translating the RenRem scripts from BRenBot into C++/CLI (or C++ in general) so that I can work out my bot's FDS communication...

If anyone could contact me via MSN (bhmath@hotmail.com) or Private message, that'd be great.


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MathK1LL

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255012 is a reply to message #255010] Sat, 21 April 2007 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zion is currently offline  Zion
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I think most bots go thought FDSTalk.dll to communicate with the FDS, either that or the DDE channel.

Not sure though.

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255015 is a reply to message #255010] Sat, 21 April 2007 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've tried using FDSTalk.dll but I cant get ANYONE to help me with implementing it...As for DDE, I dont know how to use DDE in CLI...

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255041 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's so special about CLI ( command line interface ) ? It's just the same as a GUI application but without the GUI part Rocked Over

BRenBot communicates with the FDS using UDP, which means the connection is created and broken again for each line it sends. It gets data back by reading the output into the logfiles.

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255046 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CLI is C++ .NET, it's a very high level language.

Sending data over UDP is connectionless, you don't connect or disconnect.

FDSTalk should be easy to use in CLI, you can just import the funcions.

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255052 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was speaking generally about UDP. I wish they would stop re-using the same abbreviation for different things...

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255064 is a reply to message #255041] Sun, 22 April 2007 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 04:16

What's so special about CLI ( command line interface ) ? It's just the same as a GUI application but without the GUI part Rocked Over

BRenBot communicates with the FDS using UDP, which means the connection is created and broken again for each line it sends. It gets data back by reading the output into the logfiles.


CLI is the Common Language Infrastructure. Languages such as C++/CLI that target the CLR are extremely powerful languages. C++/CLI was created to make an easy switch from Native C++ to the managed world, which Microsoft did an outstanding job.

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255065 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I code with C++ a lot, but never heard of CLI other than in it's meaning as Command Line Interface. Why couldn't they come up with a unique name for it instead of trying to confuse everyone? Razz

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255069 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because C++/CLI still meets C++ ISO Standards and has backwards compatibility with Native code via Interop. Wink

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255078 is a reply to message #255065] Sun, 22 April 2007 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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danpaul88 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 17:29

I code with C++ a lot, but never heard of CLI other than in it's meaning as Command Line Interface. Why couldn't they come up with a unique name for it instead of trying to confuse everyone? Razz

Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 17:43

Because C++/CLI still meets C++ ISO Standards and has backwards compatibility with Native code via Interop. Wink


Perhaps re-read.
And tbh, I think that command line interface (CLI) is a more often used avebration then yours.

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255080 is a reply to message #255078] Sun, 22 April 2007 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 10:56

And tbh, I think that command line interface (CLI) is a more often used avebration then yours.


What does that have to do with anything? A Command Line Interface has nothing to do with the Common Language Infrastructure...

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255107 is a reply to message #255080] Sun, 22 April 2007 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dave Anderson wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 18:00

What does that have to do with anything? A Command Line Interface has nothing to do with the Common Language Infrastructure...

I read half this topic wondering why people were talking about command line interfaces. Sad

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Re: [Coding] RenRem [message #255125 is a reply to message #255010] Sun, 22 April 2007 12:58 Go to previous message
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Seems I've sparked a conversation about a different type of C++ Smile


C++/CLI is very powerful and simple to learn. The bot that I'm creating for Renegade is coded solely in C++/CLI.

As for the meaning of CLI, I'm going with Dave on that one...



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MathK1LL

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