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Personally I think they're starting to get pretty annoying
especially about leaving out small details in their new commercials

like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoGYBxbe_bw

Good idea to buy a mac since I'll have to start fresh anyways!
oh wait now I'll have to buy a 2000$ mac and 90% of the stuff on my pc won't work and I'm already on Vista so all my stuff will transfer over anyways Neutral




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Re: What do you guys think about the mac commercials [message #409660 is a reply to message #409659] Fri, 06 November 2009 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They've kinda lost their cleverness over time. Plus, they're not really meant for people like you and me that know that Mac's are totally dumb.

Instead, those commercials, especially this one in particular, are targeted towards people who can't seem to just Google and find out how to transfer their data, or install the new OS. Coincidentally, they're just as dumb as Mac's.


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Re: What do you guys think about the mac commercials [message #409662 is a reply to message #409659] Fri, 06 November 2009 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway.

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Dover wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:10

You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway.

EDIT: Also,
index.php?t=getfile&id=12098&private=0

LOL nice pic.


Yeah these commercials are getting really annoying as well as they're trying to hard. Vista sucked for sure, but 7 is actually a decent OS. The best parts of XP and Vista rolled into one and then some.

The Mac OS is nice, but their computers are far too expensive.


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Homey wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 20:19

Dover wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:10

You know, if the bitch in the commercial is having "pain and frustration" with XP, then let her go to macs. I don't want her using Windows 7 anyway.

EDIT: Also,
index.php?t=getfile&id=12098&private=0

LOL nice pic.


Yeah these commercials are getting really annoying as well as they're trying to hard. Vista sucked for sure, but 7 is actually a decent OS. The best parts of XP and Vista rolled into one and then some.

The Mac OS is nice, but their computers are far too expensive.


Elaborate on why "Vista sucked".


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-Bad compatibility with XP programs and games.
-Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working.
-Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.)
-Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent.
-A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.)
-Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically.

Just to name a few.

I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling.

With Windows 7, however, I couldn't be happier. It essentially works like XP, has the good features of Vista, & adds and fixes a lot of new features with compatibility and security. Not only that, but it runs incredibly smooth and looks good doing it.

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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:30

-Bad compatibility with XP programs and games.
-Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working.
-Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.)
-Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent.
-A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.)
-Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically.

Just to name a few.

I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling.

With Windows 7, however, I couldn't be happier. It essentially works like XP, has the good features of Vista, & adds and fixes a lot of new features with compatibility and security. Not only that, but it runs incredibly smooth and looks good doing it.


This. Vista had a few nice parts to it, but it was by no means a casual computer. And it had a good lot of problems for gamers. So that basically leaves just developers, which are not a majority when it comes to PC users.

Plus, for every nice part, there were about 5 bad ones.

also apple sucks


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R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-Bad compatibility with XP programs and games.


Derp derp. It had bad compatibility with DOS programs and games. So does XP. I still get the occasional problem getting Civilization 2 to run on my XP machine without the use of an ISO. What your basically complaining about is "Things that aren't meant to run on this OS aren't running!"

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-Bad compatibility with a lot of hardware. And of a lot of the hardware that did work, you had to go through a song and dance to get it working.


R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-Try networking a Vista PC with an XP PC. (I shutter at the hours I spent wasting away trying to figure out the password on a computer that had no password.)


I did it at the office I used to work. I had no problems. L2Computer?

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-Security that was either extremely annoying or flat out absent.


Again, L2Computer. If it's annoying you, you can turn the notifications off. If it's not enough for you, you can turn it up. What do you want?

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-A lot of hidden options or just unnecessarily moved ones. (A problem that might take a few seconds to fix on XP would take over an hour in Vista simply because the options for it were hard to find and the way the options were set up were completely different than they were in XP.)


This is an argument against all updating. Most people had the same problem with Office 2007. This isn't the program's fault, but the users. There's an unrealistic expectation of "I know how to use X, so it should be the same on Y", when there's no reason to believe it's such. You paid for something new.

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

-Resource hog that slowed down any simple task that you wanted to accomplish dramatically.


Yeah, I had the same problem when I tried to put XP on a P2, 233 MHz machine way back when, and I have the same problem when trying to play NWN2 on my current machine. It helps if your machine meets the minimal requirements of what you're running.

Just to name a few.

R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:30

I never bought Vista myself, but I used it on friend's computers, family member computers, and public computers. I always had issues trying to figure out simple tasks. It was a nightmare. It made using the computer so much harder than it had to be. I'm the guy in my family that people go to for computer assistance. But, every time someone had a problem with Vista, I could not fix it.. I had to figure out a compromise. And that's after hours of fiddling.


Perhaps you're not as proficient as you think you are. L2Computer.

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:41


This. Vista had a few nice parts to it, but it was by no means a casual computer.


Unless you count the Fisher Price machines that Apple is marketing as computers, there is no such thing as a "casual computer".

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 06 November 2009 22:41

And it had a good lot of problems for gamers.


Never experienced any. In fact, games I couldn't run on my XP machine (Halo 2, NWN2, Spore) I managed to get working on Vista.


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Re: What do you guys think about the mac commercials [message #409675 is a reply to message #409659] Sat, 07 November 2009 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week. I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it. OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks, but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around. The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad.

Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows.


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JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week.


Have fun paying double for the same hardware, and have fun not being able to run any software unless you get it from your "special" store, and have fun not being able to work on your computer's insides without giving it to the Apple Corporation to hold hostage (Unless you're into voided warranties), and have fun with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that tells you you're a hipster faggot.

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it.


Actually, just about anything running windows > Macbook because:
-Students are poor, and Mac's charge more to make you feel special.
-Students are either just going to be taking notes or writing essays, in which case you want Microsoft Word (The real one, not the shitty Mac port)...
-...Or they're taking some programming classes, in which case AH HAHAHAHAHA @ Macs.
-Students leik vidya gaemz.

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks,


Casually not running most software.

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around.


If you don't have a mouse laying around, you don't get to use your computer. Touchpads suck, and nothing Apple can do to them will fix that.

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad.


Clearly, you've never been a student. And it's $1049, not $999.

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows.


Genius. I'll be overcharged for my hardware, and then I'll have to separately buy an OS that actually runs software I want. Where do I sign up lol?


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Re: What do you guys think about the mac commercials [message #409682 is a reply to message #409659] Sat, 07 November 2009 04:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Vista only sucked when it was first released, after they fixed it things were just as good as XP.

You can't really judge an OS untill you've used it for some time at home. Because the OS you use at home is one you will have to use the most and be familiar with.
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Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

Have fun watching your OS boot and run slower and slower every week.


Have fun paying double for the same hardware, and have fun not being able to run any software unless you get it from your "special" store, and have fun not being able to work on your computer's insides without giving it to the Apple Corporation to hold hostage (Unless you're into voided warranties), and have fun with that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach, the one that tells you you're a hipster faggot.


Paying double? That's not true, Sony Vaio notebooks are generally more expensive than Macbooks, Dell notebooks are generally a bit cheaper. The price difference is greatly exaggerated and silly to use in a debate without providing an example.
Changing the RAM and Harddrive doesn't void your warranty - what else are you going to change on a notebook? That's more than enough for 90% of students' needs.

Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

I'm not sure if I'd buy an iMac, but for most students, a Macbook > a Windows laptop if they can afford it.


Actually, just about anything running windows > Macbook because:
-Students are poor, and Mac's charge more to make you feel special.
-Students are either just going to be taking notes or writing essays, in which case you want Microsoft Word (The real one, not the shitty Mac port)...
-...Or they're taking some programming classes, in which case AH HAHAHAHAHA @ Macs.
-Students leik vidya gaemz.



Moot points.
-Students might be poor at your community college, but most of them aren't too worried about a price difference that corresponds to roughly one night of extensive clubbing.
-Pages is superior to Word, but I have the feeling I'm arguing with someone who, unlike me, hasn't written term papers with both. Pages simply gives you cleaner layout. I haven't experienced any compatibility issues, either. Keynote is miles ahead of Powerpoint...it's really easy to make a presentation look professional with those templates, Powerpoint doesn't even come close. I'm not an avid Excel/Numbers user, so I can't comment on those two.
-Those last two points just show there your argument is heading - nowhere. So you're trying to tell me that my point about most students being better off with a Macbook is wrong because I disregarded the horde of IT-nerds and hardcore gaming-addicts? Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

OS X is already sharper when it comes to most casual tasks,


Casually not running most software.


Another moot point until you give some examples. I'm eager to know which type of software that most students need can't be run under OS X. You know, browsing, listening to music, watching video, reading documents, word processing, presentations, chatting,...

Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

but this multi-touch keyboard technology is leaps beyond what Windows notebooks are offering when you don't have a mouse laying around.


If you don't have a mouse laying around, you don't get to use your computer. Touchpads suck, and nothing Apple can do to them will fix that.


Not sure how things work in community college, but you won't be catching too many students around here that carry their mice along with them...it's an inconvenience that no longer necessary with a Macbook. The second part is gold, tho. "I have never really used Apple's multi-touch interface, but it must suck because my Windows notebook's touchpad sucked big time!" Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

The battery life is second to none as well. I have a Macbook Pro, but the regular Macbooks now have these features as well since the newest revision and they cost 999$/ 949$ with student discount, which isn't too bad.


Clearly, you've never been a student. And it's $1049, not $999.


No, I just stalk the pretty ladies on campus. Good to see you finally backing up your fact-absent argument with numbers. Unfortunately, they're incorrect Sad
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook?mco=MTAyNTM5ODc
Click "get an education discount", type in your community college and watch the price drop to $949. Magic!

Dover wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 03:12

JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 00:31

Oh and if you really can't live without some Windows-only software, you can just install Windows.


Genius. I'll be overcharged for my hardware, and then I'll have to separately buy an OS that actually runs software I want. Where do I sign up lol?


I'm pretty sure the casual gamers can either live with the games ported to OS X or get hold of a copy of windows (which everyone has laying around somewhere). Again, if you're talking about the IT-Nerds and hardcore gamers, you might want to check up the definition of most, as in 'most students'.

www.apple.com




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My parent's laptop uses Vista, And I've used it a lot and I like it... although I still prefer XP.
I guess it just depends on what you want to use it for.

Also, the "Windows 7 won;t have any of the bugs Windows Vista had, trust me" Mac commercial annoyed the heck out of me Sneaky


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Mac commercials should show how good they are, not how bad the PC is.
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Mac and WIndows users alike should be thanking Apple for making great products and becoming a real threat to Microsoft in the OS department. Apple's pricing their products more competitively and Microsoft is showing that they're capable of great products as well when pushed by fierce competition, be it Sony or Apple. The consumer benefits and should be happy instead of nerdraging like that Dover weirdo and the other dweebs that are catching feelings because of an ad.

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I don't think apple can get more users by bashing on competitors like that...
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BlueThen wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 10:37

I don't think apple can get more users by bashing on competitors like that...


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Ok, Dover. I'm lying. All of the problems I had with using an Operating System designed for user accessibility and production were just an unfounded and potentially bias portrayal of my emotions for hating an OS that I had been looking forward to for the couple of years before it's release.

Seriously, do read what you say? Or does it just come naturally? "L2computer?" Two things:
1. I don't have to. If I can use the older model without problems, then shouldn't the new UPGRADED model work better and faster and more efficient?
2. Why should I? Most people who own computers don't know it's possible to do even the simplest tasks. The features in Vista were designed to give users less of a hard time on their computer. So how is it that it takes more effort and resources to do a simple task on Vista than it does in XP or Windows 7?

Or, for that matter, why did Microsoft bother to release Windows 7 in the first place? What possible reason could they have to release a new OS version so soon after the release of Vista?

You are the one who needs to "L2computer."
The first lesson: No two people use a computer the same way. What positive experiences you had may not be the same for me and other people.

You found use out of Vista? Good for you. I didn't. It's not an argument. We are not discussing takes on a proposed issue or matter, we are discussing past experiences with a physical product.
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I think it's getting old... the commercials, that is.

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JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 10:44

Mac and WIndows users alike should be thanking Apple for making great products and becoming a real threat to Microsoft in the OS department. Apple's pricing their products more competitively and Microsoft is showing that they're capable of great products as well when pushed by fierce competition, be it Sony or Apple. The consumer benefits and should be happy instead of nerdraging like that Dover weirdo and the other dweebs that are catching feelings because of an ad.


I agree about the competition - it's always a good thing and I am happy for it.
Still, I always hold a dislike for any sort of ad that tries to promote itself by bashing its competitors. (*coughelectionscough*)


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Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software?

Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC?
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 14:01

Also, what exactly is a Mac other than software?

Can't you run a Mac OS on a PC?



I know that a PC user could emulate Mac OS X on the machine if they wanted to, I've seen that before.


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All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness...
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DimitryK wrote on Sat, 07 November 2009 18:33

All mac users are gay or suffering from mental illness...


good point faggot


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