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This is what I'm currently running:
eVGA nForce 680i SLI 775
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400
2GB RAM
2 nVidia 7900 GT cards in SLI
the only problem that I've had with this setup is the typical nForce network controller errors. If you use any of their performance tweak programs... BSOD in XP.. which is impressive, actually.. it's the only time in 3 years that I've seen XP brought to its knees by installed hardware.
Yes, I play at 800x600.. I have two 20" Acer LCD's and I've tried at higher resolutions and don't like it... I bought larger monitors so I could see shit, not so I could make it all smaller.
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255079 is a reply to message #254576] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 09:57 |
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I really don't get this whole drive to higher resolutions... at anything above 1024 X 768 I find it hard to read text and everything looks like it's a mile away...
FTR, I do run supreme commander on here, at 1024 X 768, and I get 11 FPS (in big 7 player games)
ATI X1650 (512Mb, 667 Mhz)
Intel P4D, 2.66 GHz (running it at 3GHz)
1 GB of RAM (Nothing special)
SATA II RAID 10 (AKA 0+1)
I get ~ 15 FPS during massive games of renegade when I'm looking at the action, the cave in mesa is a good example. I prefer smaller numbers of prettier frames than several hundred sets of boxes...
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255082 is a reply to message #255020] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 10:05 |
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| msgtpain wrote on Sat, 21 April 2007 21:22 |
This is what I'm currently running:
eVGA nForce 680i SLI 775
Intel Core 2 Duo 6400
2GB RAM
2 nVidia 7900 GT cards in SLI
the only problem that I've had with this setup is the typical nForce network controller errors. If you use any of their performance tweak programs... BSOD in XP.. which is impressive, actually.. it's the only time in 3 years that I've seen XP brought to its knees by installed hardware.
Yes, I play at 800x600.. I have two 20" Acer LCD's and I've tried at higher resolutions and don't like it... I bought larger monitors so I could see shit, not so I could make it all smaller.
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What a waste.
FUCK
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255095 is a reply to message #255079] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 11:10 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 09:57 |
I really don't get this whole drive to higher resolutions... at anything above 1024 X 768 I find it hard to read text and everything looks like it's a mile away...
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Not everyone has a 17" CRT monitor. I have one too, but there are many people who have larger LCD monitors or even 20"-22" 1680x1050 (native) widescreen LCD monitors, which trust me are freakishly huge.
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255110 is a reply to message #255084] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 12:18 |
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| trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 13:14 |
ok, im going to remind everyone of a simple fact....the human eye can not see anything higher than 60fps (at best) so having 200 vs 60 makes no difference, EXCEPT if the fps drops, so maybe 80 or 70 would ensure you would always have atleast 60 
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How about instead of spewing rhetoric which you've picked up in some other thread, you go to Google and do a little research on your own.
Or, maybe you already have.. so.. please, enlighten us with your knowledge of how a cinema reel works at 24 fps, how many frames of dark are between identical frames in the movie? Do you see fluid motion because 24 fps is all the eye can see, or do you know much about a term "motion blur"? Why don't game manufacturers add motion blur to their games instead of spending millions of dollars making the hardware perform better FPS?
The Air Force conducted a test where they displayed an image of a plane for 1/500th of a second.. pilots were easily able to recognize the plane in that small amount of time. Why is that? Do you know anything about afterimages and how they affect your perception?
If it suits you, please feel free to continue regurgitating that which you've read but don't at all understand.. It really doesn't affect me at all. However, should you wish to actually become enlightened, sit down with an ophthalmologist, or a physiologist and pose the question to them.. I guarantee you'll be surprised when they tell you that they don't actually know exactly what the human limitation on FPS is.. but that in it's simplest form, it most likely higher than 500.. but when coupled with different scenarios testing items such as fluidity, or flickering, different people will always have different perceptions.
For now, I'll just keep upgrading my video card and monitors.. if for no other reason than "I feel like it".
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255140 is a reply to message #254576] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 15:34 |
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I agree about motion blur in games. I think more games should use it because not only does it sort of cancel out low frame rates, but it also makes the motion much more interesting and closer to real-life.
EDIT: Crysis will use motion blur. 
Also, physically there IS no limit to how many frames per second you can see. See here:
http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html
| msgtpain wrote on Sun, 22 April 2007 12:18 |
The Air Force conducted a test where they displayed an image of a plane for 1/500th of a second..
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1/220th of a second. 
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255265 is a reply to message #254576] |
Mon, 23 April 2007 11:40 |
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That's not necessarily true. Unless your refresh rate is at 120hz, it's still going to look like 85, 75, 72, 70, 60hz or whatever your refresh rate is at. Even if vsync is off, your monitor is still physically displaying frames no higher than its current refresh rate, while the video card is chucking out like 200 FPS. Vsync just limits the amount of frames the video card renders at, and it also eliminates tearing.
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255365 is a reply to message #255328] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 01:05 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Tue, 24 April 2007 02:58 |
look at the second six in 1660... there's a stray pixel next to it. besides, 1660 FPS isn't possible on current hardware
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That's true comparing the spacing between the 1 and 6, and 6 and 6 but take a look at the spacing of the 6 and 0 on the sfps. They're the same as the 6 and 0 on the fps. Which goes towards implying that it wasn't edited, although i could be completely wrong.
It could just be simple taking the 1 from somewhere else and the 6 from somewhere else and putting them infront. Compare the ping spaces for verification.
The most i've ever had in ren was 600fps and that was at the black screen before the loading game and after clicking the start button from the serverlist.
Back to the topic at hand:
It's not the size of the fps that matters. Sure, you could have 600fps but you look at 10,000 polys and it drops to 6. It's the strentgh of the fps that matters to most gamers. The fact that it can render hundreds of thousands of polygons and still have a constant 60fps, yet looking at one polygon and still have 60 fps.
The 8800GTX is a stong card not only because if its shear power but because it can take alot of the stuff you give it, and display it to the end user perfectly. If you dislike the fact that you always get 60 fps, sure, boost your refresh rate but if you blow your card don't come crying to us.
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| Re: How come I got a 8800 and still cant get a good FPS?? [message #255483 is a reply to message #254576] |
Tue, 24 April 2007 14:04 |
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Graphics cards' maximum supported refresh rates for average resolutions are way higher than what any monitor can even attempt to display. There is no way that is a factor. If your card overheats even though it's not overclocked, then the reason is one or more of the following:
-the stock fan isn't very good quality and has degraded over time
-the whole cooling in the case is terrible
-the fan just died
-the card is defective
Graphics cards cost a HUGE fortune, they are designed to be much better than to easily fry if you use something like 85hz (or even 120hz).
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Then again it could just be that ren3d thing editing or showing more fps than it really is 
