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Should we fix jumping on barracks on Canyon? [message #98881]

Fri, 02 July 2004 10:11

Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003

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SeaMan

Eg. you wanted to be credited because Eric Kearns "saw your Hand of Nod post" and decided to share the old Renegade assets.
You should be credited simply because he read your post?

Actually, Eric was reading the Commando Nod Turret post and that eventually led to releasing the assets (by both you Aircraftkiller and Kearns).
http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10399&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=100

Eric is the original author of these assets and by no matter how the assets were edited or copied, the copyright is hold by him and Westwood Studios/Electronic Arts.
You can't simply erase somebody's name from a table and stick your name on it.
Also remember this..

Eric Kearns - former Westwood Studios Lead Artist for C&C Renegade

My two cents...

Anything that Westwood made and is out there for Renegade should be freely distributed. Who made these Westwood assets no bearing on the issue. If someone wants to keep these models and not distribute them to the community then it's everyone's lose. The idea of having a mod community to me means everyone shares assets and everyone tries to make their own cool maps using the assets (or their own new ones). If someone wants to keep certain items under their thumb and not let everyone play with em then shame on you. Be a pal and let these people share the fun.

It's simple. I'll find a way to post all the stuff I have so everyone and their mother can get it and use it. If someone wants to run around claiming it was something they made then I'll call their bluff and we'll be done with it.

Now I would figure there would be some opposition to this idea because people are keeping some goods to themselves claiming they have a right to keep certain things private to their mod. So fire away or flame it up or whatever it is that you want to do with such fodder.

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An acknowledgment of work done, as in the production of a motion picture or publication. Often used in the plural: At the end of the film we stayed to watch the credits.

That's credit. That doesn't equate to respect. Regardless of whatever you think.

What Eric said is his own opinion and I don't happen to share it, because you're a whiny little moron who couldn't do what I asked before I would release those assets voluntarily. You couldn't cut it and get some actual work done, you just wanted something to show off and make people visit your site.

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Aircraftkiller wrote:
I don't only read the first few lines just because you think I do.
YOU are the one who told ME that you don't read my entire posts. it was weeks ago, so you probably don't remember it...

Now put that together with the "I'm just here to piss people off in this thread" remark and you get what's called "pushing buttons to incite funny responses."

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i never said that you claimed to be a part of EA. i said that you act like you should have the final say about any "fixes" to Renegade. and i said that you have no right to act that way because EA has the rights to the game, NOT you.

I have every right to act that way because we both know that EA isn't going to do anything about this game in the future.

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and i said the community SHOULD be the ones making the decisions.

Now lets reverse this around.

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and i said that you have no right to act that way because BHS has the rights to RenGuard, NOT you.

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this argument is really pointless though. at the end of the day, everyone's still going to hate you for being a little prick, and everyone's still going to hate me for being in FUD.

I doubt everyone hates me. Hate is such a strong term to use toward one another. Maybe some people dislike me, but all? I doubt it, I really do. If you think everyone hates me because you're in FUD and you're used to being hated by most gamers for your "pompous ass" attitude...

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i do have one question though: if you really don't care about having the respect of anyone on these forums, why are you defending yourself so vehemently when all i'm really saying is that nobody respects you and nobody should?

Because saying that is a fallacy in logic. You do not speak for everyone because you are not everyone. Remember where I said I would argue with people who wrote ignorant things?

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