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	| Here are a few interesting logs from AIM that I happened to save. I am programinbastad, and Deadaim00 is ATLjoker541 and he later uses insanelildil, since I blocked ATLjoker541. The logs speak for themselves. I highlighted a few key quotes. 
 programinbastad: you knew you weren't supposed to have the alpha yesterday
 programinbastad: or whenver it was
 programinbastad: and you didn't ask before downloading, you asked before playing in my server
 ATLjoker541: well, i obviously didnt know i wasnt supose to have it
 programinbastad: you should have
 ATLjoker541: well im sorry
 programinbastad: you don't seem sorry
 programinbastad: you seem conniving
 ATLjoker541: con whating?
 programinbastad: conninving, plotting, insidious
 ATLjoker541: i only know 1 of thoes words
 ATLjoker541: lol
 programinbastad: you want the alphas real bad, but you don't seem to want to make us any decent maps
 ATLjoker541: thats not true
 programinbastad: I trust you less than I trust most of our beta testers
 ATLjoker541: i could give a damn about the alphas
 programinbastad: no, you begged me for months
 ATLjoker541: ill delete it right now
 ATLjoker541: if you want
 ATLjoker541: hell no i didnt
 programinbastad: have you forgotten already?
 ATLjoker541: i asked once
 ATLjoker541: and you said no
 programinbastad: you asked me liek every day for at least a month
 ATLjoker541: because you couldnt trust me yet, and i agreed with you
 ATLjoker541: no i did not
 programinbastad: yes, you definitely did
 ATLjoker541: i have all my aim convos saved
 programinbastad: don't sit here and deny it
 ATLjoker541: and i can prove i did not
 programinbastad: go back and look for yourself
 programinbastad: you asked dozens of times
 programinbastad: and then you go and download this one, knowing you weren't supposed to
 programinbastad: and you are still yet to produce an even mediocre map
 programinbastad: but its gets worse, you're not useful as a beta tester either
 ATLjoker541: lol, how is anyone not usefull as a beta tester?
 programinbastad: you never played when I hosted, you never pointed out any errors that weren't already known
 programinbastad: so far you've only come off as a n00b who wants to play our alphas
 programinbastad: the least you could do is use the default LE instead of one for a competitor mod
 ATLjoker541: why does it matter
 programinbastad: because its annoying to have to use fucking RA to play a map that is for our mod
 programinbastad: not that it is going in our mod, because, like I said, it is a piece of shit
 ATLjoker541: ok, and im still not sure why its annoying
 ATLjoker541: but i guess its your own personal preference
 programinbastad: my preference is that you show your value and make somethnig we can use
 
 programinbastad: I think the fact that is most disparaging in your case is that you have nothing to show for any respectably good map, even now 4 days after missing the ultimatum deadline that I set for you
 programinbastad: which, if anything, solidifies the growing fear in my mind that you are a useless creten who exists solely to mooch internal alphas
 ATLjoker541: jesus christ dude, let that alpha thing go
 ATLjoker541: i dont care about it
 ATLjoker541: infact, ill delete it right fucking now
 ATLjoker541: if it will make you shut up
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 programinbastad: am I just supposed to forget?
 ATLjoker541: all i needed to do
 ATLjoker541: was ask someone
 ATLjoker541: or hack it myself
 ATLjoker541: and i would have gotten it
 ATLjoker541: so dont say thats all i want
 programinbastad: well then I wish you good luck in getting the next alpha
 programinbastad: because you're fucking off the team
 programinbastad: I don't want to ever hear from you again, got that?
 
 
 This next segment was a day or two later. I was away, and Deadaim00 came on with a different name (one which I had not blocked), insanelildil. Here is what he had to say:
 
 insanelildil: I didnt wanna fucking do this, but now i guess since you dont want people to see this alpha, its going to have to be leaked ALL OVER THE RENEGADE COMMUNITY
 insanelildil: along with your first one
 insanelildil: so, hmmmmm where to put it first
 programinbastad: you said you were going to delete it
 insanelildil: ya, well i would have, but you never told me to
 programinbastad: the least you could do is follow through on your word for once in your life
 insanelildil: i asked you
 insanelildil: i will delete it if it will make you shut up
 programinbastad: it will
 insanelildil: and you didnt say anything about that
 programinbastad: I was shut up
 insanelildil: ya, by blocking me
 insanelildil: i didnt want you to bloc kme
 insanelildil: i told you that in the beginning
 insanelildil: if i get kicked off the team for some reason
 insanelildil: the most we could do is still talk
 programinbastad: I don't want to talk to someone who threatens to hack our server for the mod, release it to the public, says I, a male, am having my period, etc
 insanelildil: well, you were getting all pissy about it
 insanelildil: and i wasnt doing anything
 insanelildil: dont even use that against me
 programinbastad: yeah, you'd already done your damage
 insanelildil: cuz i know what your goign to say
 programinbastad: even outside of you getting the alphas, you still haven't done jack fucking shit
 insanelildil: told ya, i knew what you were going to say
 programinbastad: and now you turn out to be some punk kid who thinks he can hack, and wants to release an internal alpha to the public
 insanelildil: god damnit
 insanelildil: i know i can hack
 insanelildil: i have proved it before
 insanelildil: and i prolly wont release it
 programinbastad: hacking with some dumb program doesn't count as hacking
 insanelildil: well, not proved it to you
 insanelildil: but i have done it
 insanelildil: there are other ways of hacking
 insanelildil: thats just the way i choose
 insanelildil: the program works, and thats what i will do
 insanelildil: you still need alot of knowlage to do it
 programinbastad: I will not be blackmailed into keeping you on this team
 insanelildil: i dont want to be on the team
 programinbastad: you can try to earn your trust back, or you can earn the scorn of the community by illegally releasing an internal alpha
 insanelildil: and im not blackmailing you
 programinbastad: then delete the fucking mod
 insanelildil: fine
 insanelildil: its gone
 insanelildil: in the recycle bin
 insanelildil: and im about to hit empty
 programinbastad: hit empty
 insanelildil: *hears sound of crunching papers*
 insanelildil: can you please unblock me now?
 insanelildil: i dont like this name
 insanelildil: it was my first name ever
 programinbastad: why should I unblock you
 programinbastad: you just threatened to hack our site, release the mod to the public, and you have forever lost my faith and trust
 insanelildil: ok, then why did you just say if i plan on earning my trust back?
 programinbastad: I don't think you do, which is why I don't intend to unblock you
 insanelildil: wait, you dont think i do what
 programinbastad: intend to earn my trust
 insanelildil: well i do, i guess i cant
 insanelildil: so i guess, i just should not try, but it would make me happy
 insanelildil: i never wanted to fight in the first place
 insanelildil: your the one who did all the fighting
 insanelildil: so now your ignoring me?
 insanelildil: what the hell
 insanelildil: talk to me damnit!
 
 
 As you have read above, he promised me that he would delete the beta from his computer, as a means of ensuring that he would not leak it, which had been my suspicion for several days.
 
 This next one was another few days later. We started talking about something else, and I said that yes, I kind of hated him. When I returned from being 'brb,' he said:
 
 ATLjoker541: your gonna hate me even more later tonight
 programinbastad: why is that
 ATLjoker541: youll see
 programinbastad: don't bullshit me
 programinbastad: don't tug my chain on some powerplay bullshit
 programinbastad: tell me what the fuck you're up to
 ATLjoker541: nope
 programinbastad: you said you deleted the mod
 ATLjoker541: ya
 ATLjoker541: and i did
 programinbastad: both?
 ATLjoker541: no
 ATLjoker541: well
 ATLjoker541: yes andn o
 ATLjoker541: yes off of this computer
 ATLjoker541: but not off the others
 ATLjoker541: so i still have it
 ATLjoker541: but tahts not what im up to
 programinbastad: is that what you're doing, releasing our alpha?
 ATLjoker541: no
 programinbastad: what, then
 ATLjoker541: i said youll see
 programinbastad: well you can make yourself look like a disloyal fucktard if you want, I guess thats your choice
 programinbastad: I already knew you were, but I did oyu the favor of not publicly announcing it
 
 This was the night before Deadaim00 released the alpha. He announced that he had no intention of releasing the internal beta at the start of the conversation.
 
 ATLjoker541: hi
 programinbastad: hi
 ATLjoker541: I officially decided not to do what i was going to do
 ATLjoker541: ever
 
 *he is referring to publicly leaking the beta, which he had threatened to do, but after cooling off he temporarily changed his mind.
 
 ATLjoker541: unless you piss me off alot
  programinbastad: come on
 ATLjoker541: but its gotta be like
 ATLjoker541: killing my family
 ATLjoker541: or something
 I removed a few lines where I helped him with some LE questions he had.
 ATLjoker541: well to tell you the truth, i was never going to do it anyway
 ATLjoker541: becaus i thought about it
 ATLjoker541: and i think if you did what i was going to do
 ATLjoker541: to nme
 ATLjoker541: I would personally come to your house and feed your family to my dogs
 ATLjoker541: lol
 ATLjoker541: well here it goes
 ATLjoker541: I was going to leak the mod, ALL over the renegade forums, renstation forums, all the big website forums, n00bstories, and more, but thats not all. I wal also going to hack into your computer, and delete every file you ever made for the mod, delete the website and everything. And just for fun, i was going to make almost every file on your computer a porn pic
 ATLjoker541: wait im not done
 ATLjoker541: dont respond yet
 ATLjoker541: *the porn pictures idea was not my idea, im not perverted like that, it was my bros* But after i was done with that, i was going to leak it some more, now i mind you, i dont have the mod on this computer anymore, but i do have friends who have it, so i could jsut as easily gotten it from them
 
 *these were deadaim00's plans, which he claimed to have abandoned the night before he released the beta. In the end he followed through on the first part - uploading the beta to his server and linking to it in every forum he cound find.
 
 ATLjoker541: but then i decided not to, because thats very mean
 ATLjoker541: k you can respond now
 programinbastad: you handed it out to friends?
 ATLjoker541: no
 ATLjoker541: i did not
 ATLjoker541: i dont know where they got it
 ATLjoker541: to tell you the truth
 ATLjoker541: i will ask him
 
 This was a little bit later that night. This time he is trying to blackmail me into not blocking him, and not kicking him off the team. He points out what happened to reborn when it was leaked - it looked bad and lost a lot of support.
 
 ATLjoker541: i didnt need to join the team to get the alpha
 ATLjoker541: i said
 programinbastad: bottom line is that you are a dumbfuck, a stupid kid, and really annoying
 ATLjoker541: well
 ATLjoker541: if you see it that way
 ATLjoker541: This mod is looking like it wants to meet other people, and im not necisarily sure if you want that now do you? You dont want to see what 2 years of bullshit work has done now do you? Im pretty sure you dont. Since the mod does kinda suck some major balls.
 programinbastad: post whatever you want, leak the alpha all over the web, I really don't care
 ATLjoker541: ok
 programinbastad: we have the support of the community
 ATLjoker541: lol
 ATLjoker541: o you wont
 ATLjoker541: you saw what happened to reborn when the betas got leaked
 programinbastad: I do not feel threatened by you
 ATLjoker541: dont you even know what happened to reborn
 ATLjoker541: They got flamed so fucking bad
 programinbastad: reborn had a shabby team, and they fell apart when you leaked their alpha
 ATLjoker541: it was unbelieveable
 programinbastad: I'm not really worried
 ATLjoker541: I DID NOT LEAK THIER ALPHA!
 programinbastad: yes you d id
 ATLjoker541: Dark did
 ATLjoker541: one of the testers
 ATLjoker541: thats bullshit
 ATLjoker541: i did not
 ...
 programinbastad: I asked in irc about you, everyone confirmed that you were a piece of shit, and ack volunteered the information that it was you who leaked the reborn alpha
 ATLjoker541: lol
 ATLjoker541: well i dont care what people think
 ATLjoker541: because it wasnt me
 programinbastad: regardless of whether you did or didn't - it doesn't really matter to me - I am blocking you now
 ATLjoker541: and wouldnt ACK be happy about that?
 programinbastad: it  doesn't matter whether he would be happy
 programinbastad: because it leaves you still as the turncoat whore that I suspected you were
 programinbastad: goodbye now
 ATLjoker541: k
 ATLjoker541 signed off at 10:22:32 PM.
 
 This was the last communication that we had before he attempted to publicly release the beta. As you have read, he promised to delete the beta from his computer, as a sign of good will. In the end, though, he released it to the public, simply because I made him angry with my insulting him about his lack of productivity.[/i]
 
 Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.
 
 
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