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Oh Hareman... [message #73235]

Mon, 22 March 2004 07:07

KIRBY098
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hareman

OMFG Demo posted

and to Kirby dude taht is weak falling on Country and God

So snorting cocaine is ok?

Giving government contracts to political contributiors is ok.

Making war is ok?

Correct me if I am wrong here but did n;t Jesus say something about love thy neighbor: I do not really recall a passage about smart bombs.

OK on to finishing the war on terror. Terrorism is at an all time high for gthe year as far as incidents goes it is estimated taht recruits have increased to the various active organizartions some 300 % over a year ago. I got news for you Kirby we are in it for a long time coming.

Comparing the war on terror to Nazism and WWII is sort of week. that would be like saying the government new about Pearl Harbor and withheld that info ... OOPs they did.

Raveshaw said something in one of those old flame wars that struck me as particularly insightfull but as usual he was flamed down.

Just who appointed the US the police force for teh world? You know until we amde war on a nother counrty without provocation we hheld the moral high road. Now the truth comes out we relied on itnel from people who had axes to grind and from people who no direct knowledge of WMD or a direct link from Iraq to Al Quaida

SO we finace the war with Iran the Iraquis had, You do remember that right? So we created some of the very problems your boy is sovling and who did that a repooplican adn not content with that Ronny played both ends against the middle by suppying I-Hawk to the Irans and money.

And for the record you donlt seem to remeber me slamming on Clinton too. 'Shrub' left Texas in a shambles the US economy is in peril, jobs being sent over seas, reneging on treaty accords to benfit big business the creation of an all powerfull 'Big Brother'

What is going to take before you wake up and realize " where did the country I love go to?"

Oh and one more thing a duly elected official of a foriegh government did what he percieved was the right thing in pulling his troops out of Iraq. YOu would do well to remeber that is democracy in action

I fail to see how serving God and Country is weak. I guess that if you no longer believe in either, it would be. I still believe in both.

You make several points based on what we have done in the past. Undoubtedly, our goverment is not innocent, and has indeed created some it's own mess.

So what do you recommend? Being held hostage to the whims of the U.N.? That worked out really well for weapons inspections, didn't it? Maybee we should have listened to Russia, France and Germany? Oh wait, they were supplying arms to the IRAQUIs too. Just like we did in the Iran-Iraq war.

The way I see it, we cleaned up the mess we created installing Saddaam. We cleaned up the unfinished work of the first Gulf war, and we prevented the potential transfer of chem / bio technology enmasse to terrorists from Iraquis that could no longer field massive WMD programs, but hated the U.S..

Afghanistan was another cleanup from our support of the mujaheddin against the Soviets in the seventies. The Taliban were a direct result of Cold war politics, and CIA covert Ops gone wrong.

Are we in this for the long run? You bet. Should we take a lead role? You bet. Should we expect our allies to back us up? You bet.

Democratic governments can be weak and pacifistic too. Spain's lack of a backbone, and unwillingness to defend the principles of freedom will have ramifications for years to come for them from the very people they are trying to pacify. Al Quiada doesn't care who is nice to them. Thier war is against the West.

And quoting Raveshaw will not make any points. He was / is a loony treehugger with no concept of reality, and real world relations. I never thought I would see the day YOU would be agreeing with, and defending his wild, and baseless arguments. The U.S. is the police force of the world because we are the last Superpower, and many organizations, and treaties are solely held together by the immensity of restrained U.S. firepower.

And no, Jesus does not advocate killing. I won't even touch that one. I was making reference to his moral charachter at home, and his acknowledgement of God publicly. His personal moral fibre was the issue at hand. As far as Cocaine use: How many dumb things have you done in your life that you no longer do now? Does smoking Pot when you were a teenager mean you are currently a Pot head? I think not.

Who these candidates are NOW, is what is at issue. How can they deal with what's going on NOW? As I have said before, 40 year old screwups hardly dictate moral charachter now. If they did, I would probably not be married right now........

You clearly have your mind set. That is just fine, and you are welcome to it. I just find it odd for someone in your critical position, at such a critical time in U.S. history to have such a left leaning mindset. Particularly after what I have observed over the last two years of posts and flame wars against the very people you are quoting now.

Very odd indeed.

We are agreed to disagree on this I am afraid.

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