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hydra1945

You have GOT to be kidding me. Did you even take a look at the sources this guy used?



Did you?

hydra1945

The authors of the articles at bushwatch.org are out there to prove that George W. Bush is bad in every way, shape and form. In order to do this, they conduct phony research that will make George W. Bush out to be the bad guy every single time.


Phony research? Like what?

hydra1945

Al Franken wrote his crappy book with the conception that all Republicans are liars and set out to prove that in his book.


No he didn't. You're rephrasing what I said earlier about Whitewater and applying it to a different context, which in this case doesn't work. Al Franken's books have extensively exquisite research. Try and prove his books wrong on anything [besides where he's making an obvious joke.]

hydra1945

There is no other way to purge that country of terrorists if the country offers aid and support and harbors the very terrorists you are trying to kill.



Commando operations don't fall under "War". A war is something that makes it to the media. It is in fact possible to assassinate terrorists without steamrolling a country. Which is just what Clinton did when he issued a presidential directive authorizing the assassination of Osama bin Laden. And alhough Sean Hannity likes to say this would go against the rule Reagan made about not being able to assassinate foreign heads of state, Osama bin Laden is not a head of state. Just so you know.

hydra1945

That wasn't the statment everyone got angry at, numbnuts. Kerry's statement was, "This is the most crooked, lying group I've ever seen." Who was he referring to? The Bush adminsitration, of course! This was said right after a speech in which he said he had been victimized by the "Republican attack machine."



Crimson was jumping over Kerry for his statement about foreign leaders EARLIER IN THIS THREAD, numbnuts. And he had been victimized by the Republican attack machine, like the time where they said he had a girlfriend, which NEVER had ANY merit WHATSOEVER, or the time where they say he voted to gut intelligence, when in fact he had voted for a bill to cut funding to a billion dollar satellite that never got off the ground, basically everyone voted for it, and the bill was offered by GEORGE BUSH SENIOR! But they aren't crooked. And let's not forget that Kerry didn't know he was on camera at the time.

hydra945

He doesn't claim to be 100% correct about everything


And it's a damn good thing he says that, too, because his articles are pretty silly. The site he references in the third paragraph of your link is just stupid, too. Kerry's "alleged heroism"? It's not alleged, he won medals in Vietnam! The war in Iraq isn't the biggest thing since WWII, I would say Vietnam probably was, considering how many Americans died there. President's actions in the wake of 9/11 were nothing short of heroic? You mean the part where he's been politicizing it the WHOLE TIME? How are Bush's references to 9/11 milder than Kerry and his part in Vietnam? Bush tlaks about 9/11 in pretty much everything he says. This whole business about only people who don't like 9/11 ads got in the news...where are all the families who support 9/11 references in his ads? Oh my god, the [i]liberal]/i] mainstream media [Guess who owns most of the mainstream media outlets? Conservatives.] is suppresing them! Well, there's no proof that they are in fact there. Oh wait! I saw one on Rush Limbaugh's show! After being screened, he talked with Limbaugh on the radio about how he thought the ads were in good taste. But wait! Limbaugh is the guy who said styrofoam was more biodegradeable than paper.

That crappy website

his [Kerry's] campaign is marshalling to its banner sub-rosa forces whose agenda can only be described as anti-American.


What the hell are they talking about?

That first crappy website

The reference to Kerry's "crooks and liars" comment was buried in the middle of the story.  


Oh my god! It was in the MIDDLE of the story! What about all of the people who can't stand reading long enough to finish a story? What about all of the people who just glance at headlines without buying the paper? These people are SO UNINFORMED because of the liberal media!

hydra1945

During that speech he detailed all of the positive news about America's economic picture, and mentioned that the the Democrats were attacking an economy that was strong and getting stronger!  So ... what is the AP headline for this story?  "Bush Blasts Democratic Attacks on Economy."


I'm sure he just barely touched on Democrats attacking an economy that has lost nearly 3 million jobs so far, and yet every year Bush says is getting better. I bet the WHOLE TIME he was talking about the economy getting better. But wait - why didn't the liberal media use a more sympathetic title, like Bush blasts Democratic Opinions on Economy." It's probably some kind of liberal reverse psychology.

That first crappy website

Do you see the difference here?  When George Bush gives a speech on economic policy, the AP says he is blasting the Democrats.  But the headline for the story detailing Kerry's "crooks and liars" comment only mention's Kerry's desire for deeper middle class tax cuts. 


I do. Bush was meaning to talk to the media when he messed with the Democrats, and then Kerry is off-camera talking to someone and attacks Republicans, after crooked things they did to him, like accusing him of having a girlfriend. I wonder if FOX even bothered to cover this. Probably not, considering how liberally biased they are.

And on that War Widow group being poised to strike at Bush's ads...if one of your family members had been killed during 9/11, would you be happy about a politician politicizing your family members grave? I wouldn't. And we can just know that members of this group lost sleep over watching for 9/11 ads. I'm sure that's how it went down.


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