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OT: Political IQ Test [message #67686] Fri, 20 February 2004 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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NukeIt15

Clinton fired a few cruise missiles at supposed al Qaeda headquarters locations, and they all missed. That's the extent of what he did. Appointing people does nothing if immediate action is not taken.


Do you make it your business to not comprehend what you read? I said he had a large plan to scour al Qaeda from the face of the earth, but finished it weeks before Bush jrs inauguration, and didn't want to have Bush start off his presidency with a small-scale war on his hands.

NukeIt15

Wiretaps. Great, how about increased security around govenment buildings? So that some asshole with a truckload of fertilizer can't park at the front gate and blow the place apart?



With more extensive wiretapping and other such surveillance, the U.S. could know that these attacks were coming and more intelligently deploy large forces around buildings they knew would be attacked as a last resort. By increasing security around government buildings, what do you mean? Have 20 guards watching every building 24/7 and build huge conrete walls around every concievable target? It just isn't feasible. Using intelligence to know that the attack will come is a far better alternative.

NukeIt15

The US Army Rangers have an unwritten rule that no one gets left behind, living or dead.Clinton forced a withdrawal when US forces could have, should have, and would have brought back the dead so their families would not have to watch their mutilated bodies being dragged through the streets.



Sometimes people in high places have to step in and give orders that not everyone will agree with in order to preserve human life. Here, if the Rangers had gone back, we could have lost 30-50 more soldiers and millions of dollars of equipment looking for bodies. You know, it takes some really crazy people to drag corpses around a city as in a parade.

NukeIt15

Perhaps because there was US armor already in the area? The Joint Chiefs of Staff didn't help much, either; we should have had our own tanks in there- that could have been done very quickly, much faster than going through someone else's chain of command.



Even then, in close quarters urban fighting, tank drivers probably HATE being there. So many RPG soldiers pop out and blow up tanks, if the Somalians had gotten themselves organized, they could have destroyed a large column of armor. There really is no way to go in to a city like that without huge loss of life without just mowing the city down with depleted uranium shells. But that's not really what the U.N. stands for.

NukeIt15

The objective was to capture a warlord because all of the aid being sent in was being confiscated by his goons and not going to the Somaili people. That could have been accomplished. There were more than enough US troops, armor assets, and aircraft in the region to do that. Clinton pulled out instead.


Oh yeah, that's right, I read the book last year and forgot about that retard despot warlord foo foo. If Clinton hadn't pulled out, though, we could have llost a ton of people. This task force proved that it really wasn't fully ready for urban combat against an entire city of RPGs and AK-47s. If this task force had kept going back in trying to get this elusive figure and recover their dead, nearly the whole task force could have wound up dead or dying.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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