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Renmaps.cjb.net Server is now full time. [message #63037] Wed, 21 January 2004 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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mgstpain has no control over "renmaps" even the word. Also I can use it advertisements if I want, he can't do anything about it. I can actively sell merchandise using that name. Once I do this, I will actually own rights to "renmaps", because I was the first one to use it in commerce. I keep telling you trademarks only apply in commerce, not in everyday speech, and usually the one who starts using it first in commerce gets the rights. what you think every time I use the word microsoft I have to pay them? No. Didn't you read that entire article? I'm sorry but your download reward the public bullshit does not count its not commerce.


com·merce ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kmrs)
n.
The buying and selling of goods

buy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b)
v. bought, (bôt) buy·ing, buys
v. tr.
To acquire in exchange for money or its equivalent; purchase

sell ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sl)
v. sold, (sld) sell·ing, sells
v. tr.
To exchange or deliver for money or its equivalent

com·mod·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-md-t)
n. pl. com·mod·i·ties
Something useful that can be turned to commercial or other advantage
An article of trade or commerce,

pur·chase ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrchs)
tr.v. pur·chased, pur·chas·ing, pur·chas·es
To obtain in exchange for money or its equivalent

Now that the definitions are set forth, you can plainly see that selling, buying, commerce in general, DOES NOT HAVE TO INVOLVE MONEY. All it has to do is provide a service for people where he gets an equivalent "something" in return. If he wanted to he could charge for access to his site, as he is only recouping lost income on bandwidth (assuming the income doesn't exceed his out of pocket expenditures), however he has decided not to do that.

But regardless, as I have said before (now FOUR times :rolleyes: ) YOU CAN USE THE RENMAPS.NET DOMAIN. however, IF (maybe when I stress it enough, you'll notice it) he decides to trademark the name renmaps, YOU CAN STILL USE THE DOMAIN. HOWEVER IF he decied to do that, since he is providing a service to people, you won't be able to use the name IN REGARDS TO SELF PROMOTION. That would be the same as holding a pary, making hamburgers, selling (refer to the defintion of selling I provided) them, and calling them McDonalds burgers. Yes I will admit the use of the word sale is somewhat not completely accurate as with what todays standards imply, but it is still simply and exchange of goods for equivalent value. For such an educated person, you sure don't read very well.

As for libel, lets say for the moment your right. You can go ahead and sue him for libel, I'll be right behind you with my suit against you.

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well since you are stupid n00b warranto, (...) happy now? stupid n00b.


Sounds stupid doesn't it? Thats what I thought. Show me a birth cirtificate that shows "Alkaline"" is a real person, or ANY proof that this will adversly affect the personal life of "Alkaline". Infact, show me ANY proof that your real identity is accessable via this site, and that "msgtpain" has access to it. Heck, for all I know, YOUR msgtpain using an spoofed IP to cause this arguement.

As for the LSU case, I thought you said they lost? Now you said they dropped it? Your the "educated" one here, please tell me how stopping something from being concluded is the same as loosing? In the legal sence I mean...

As for your accomplishments with the bar exam, good for you (assuming that your not just saying this to try an make you look more creditable) But there have been people in the past that have passed the bar exam, and proove their knowledge by, oh I don't know, suing a kids hockey league for discrimination when his kid didn't get into the level that he should have gotten.

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