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Re: Questions I would like to pose to athiests [message #445990 is a reply to message #445982] Wed, 20 April 2011 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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(question refrased)
Creationists believe: in the begining was God, and he created the univers, our world, ect.

as Evolutionists what do you believe was the begining of the univers? (I'm going somewere with this)

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if someone studied the bible and its authenticity and came up with conclusions unflattering to christianity and/or judaism, would you consider him/her to be a biblical scholar?


Yes

if a scientist studied biology and came up with conclusions unflattering to The Theory of Evolution you would still consider him/her to be a "valid" scientist right?


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Firstly, what makes you think this only instructs those people at that time and place?


This is found in Leviticus wich is made up of laws and rules to govern the Isrealite's society.

deutoronomy actually, though that's a forgivable error. those two books are pretty similar in terms of barbarism.

well, if you think these laws - sick, disgusting, unjust laws that strip human beings of their dignity - only apply to one particular group of people, do you think the same about the rest of the old testament? the ten commandments, for example? and you said earlier that you didn't know much about the culture at the time. well, the laws are coming from god, aren't they? if it's as brutal and unjust a society as it sounds, you have your god to thank for it; his laws reinforce the appalling state of affairs.


I was talking with my mom (she likes to study the Bible indeepth)
she was saying that back then in those times, the culture had arranged marrages, and the men were the head of the house hold and were required to work and provide for their house holds, make all decisions, and were generaly responsible for them. the law in Dureronomy was more of a protection for the woman and a punishment for the man. back then the concept of marrage was way different than what it has become today. the man was forced to pay the father 50 sheckls (large sum) and he had to marry her and was forced to take care of and provide for here as long as he lived.

Do you know who the Jews for Jesus are? if you don't they are jews who have become christians but they know all the history and culture of the jews and the old testament. they also answer question people have about things, like this question you gave. if you like I can im the email address of one of them to you.

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If you don't mind me asking what (in your opinnion) makes moral values right?


I'm asking about them in general in your opinion why do you believe your morals or values are right? what is your basis for saying your morals are "good" and other things are "bad"?
 
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