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Re: A psychological question: "choose to believe" [message #444520 is a reply to message #444510] Tue, 01 March 2011 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Chew wrote on Tue, 01 March 2011 13:38

The 7 headed beast = the governments (7 world powers)

i remember you saying bear = russia, lion = britain etc. the funny part was you said dragon = china. i'll come back to that in just a second...

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The Dragon = Satan (lols)

mmhmm. and isn't Revelation when it was decided that the "serpent" in Eden was Satan? cos there's nothing in Genesis about Satan. Nothing. So thousands of years later someone on an island in the Med decides that the snake was actually Satan?

The serpent is Satan because it suits you, and the dragon is Satan because it suits you, except when it's China...

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Revelation starts off Micheal the Arch Angel stands up throws Satan out of heaven to the earth. Woa to the Earth and to the seas for The Devil has come down to you with great anger knowing he has a short period of time.

According to some other scriptures and prophecies that was in Otober 1914 (I am sure I have made a big post somewhere about that).

yes, i remember it well. i remember my reply, too. you basically turned the rules of mathematics into balloon animals. anyone could have come up with all sorts of different dates by approaching it the way you did.

but the question of Revelation's timeline is very interesting to me, and i'll come back to that too.

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4 horsemen start riding, we see more death, famine and sickness (which is accurate about the last century according to historians).

...and every century?

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Eventually the beast turns on The Harlot and pretty much eats her, because God puts it in them to do so. So the governments will turn on all of religion, some quotes could be pulled from the news that might hint at that.

sure, and some quotes can be pulled from the news which say it's the opposite.

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If I were assuming that is is, I would say Revelation definetly should be there, and it was a prediction prophecy that we are living in now, so there is more to come, luckly it does have a rather nice ending.

firstly, the bit about the Lake of Fire isn't nice.

secondly, back to the question about the timeline, i.e. is it a prediction or a description of past events? (they aren't the only two options of course, it could also be the ravings of a lunatic or just some rather bad fiction, either of which seems a lot more likely)
y'know i started a thread asking people which version of the bible they use, and recommend? well, my KJV is probably a lot older than anyone else's here; it's been in my family for generations and it's very old and battered. i honestly don't know how old it is. it contains something you don't seem to see in bibles anymore; dates in the margin of every page. it says when all the events took place. e.g. it puts Genesis at 4004 BC (lol), the Ten Commandments at 1491 BC, the death of Jesus at 33 AD (his birth at 5 BC, which raises some questions...)
but to the question about Revelation; it dates the events to 96 AD. (that's a few years after the book was written, making it a prediction of the near future at the time). well, maybe bibles don't say that anymore, but they used to. why was that the common belief, do you think? why did the printers of the King James Bible decide that this should be included in the bible? equally valid question, why did they decide that it should no longer?

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