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Mon, 31 May 2010 23:40

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HaTe wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 00:52

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No for two reasons: 1st you'll never get an exclusive list because new cheats will be imagined. 2nd because I don't aim to give a list of cheats for people to look up in google. That's the whole idea of censoring some words...

You misunderstood, I meant clarifying as in describing exactly what is a cheat, and what is not, or a definition of what is and what is not considered to be a cheat by the renegade forums moderating team.

I invite you to give this a try. Maybe you have more inspiration than I do. The best I could get to is what I wrote above. Rocko's try isn't bad either.

HaTe wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 00:52

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However, the information itself was generally accepted long before I arrived here

So if you were here then, then it's possible that it would not of been allowed to be released here? Is that what you're getting at?

Probably not because as I wrote before, it was way less obvious that this feature was going to be abused for something it wasn't meant to be used. But a better example: if brenbot hadn't had this feature and a HUD had been released with c4 count on it the way BB was released now, then I would have considered it an obvious cheat, yes.

HaTe wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 00:52

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it's delivered server side meaning anyone can and will use it without client modifications.

I thought we were talking about cp2 and the pressing button command, not the !c4 command. Cp2 has to be downloaded, just as building bars and the c4 feature hud does.

No, I was first talking about the brenbot feature.

HaTe wrote on Tue, 01 June 2010 00:52

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I see a cheat as anything that can give a significant advantage to one player opposed to another player not using it.

Well, that's an opinion statement describing an opinion...the word significant can be twisted in many ways to mean basically anything. That's truly the safe answer, but not the one that would clear this up easier..

As said: feel free to give it a better shot.

I'm feeling this is turning into a Spoony argumentation, so maybe we should continue this on MSN rather than filling pages with quotes.

You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord

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