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Re: Catholic adoption agencies and homosexuality [message #424591 is a reply to message #422616] Sat, 03 April 2010 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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yea it might help if I read it all Listen I guess the general gist I got of it was wrong. ah well, carry on.

edit: Yea I can comment on that, it might be wrong but here it is anyway. The disagreement in this case lies within Altzans' belief in God and the Bible; and your apparent lack of belief (I think?). I'd presume it's common knowledge that the bible speaks out against homosexuality, to put it lightly; and obviously against rape too. Now I'm not really sure as to how Altzan came to the conclusion that one is worse than the other (maybe there's some sort of point system in the bible that i missed aka 10 points for rape, yay I win!), but I think in his view, they are both sins. Thus, anything that goes against the teachings, or laws of the bible is either a sin; or something that may impede on the apparent goal of living by the bible, acknowledging Jesus as the Lord and Savior business and getting into heaven. - (I presume that's the gist of it).

But on the other hand, your apparent lack of belief in the Bible negates the homosexuality part. Therefore, you see rape as wrong (which it is), and two homosexual men who "love" eachother (prove that exists while your at it) as normal (debatable - disprove God and the Bible and you'll win it)

So in conclusion, you can't debate or tell someone that they're wrong about something like that without looking at the root of it. He believes in God, you don't. He believes in the Bible, you don't. The reason Altzans' opinion differs against yours isn't due to just his own sole reasons; they have a strong link to the Bible and to God. Therefore, disprove the Bible and God, and you will win the argument.

Now the chances of someone doing that on the Renegade Forums is pretty low (lol); so like Ziggy said, I think this argument while not pointless - is pretty close.

I realise I made alot of assumptions in there and I apologise if I mis-represented anyone's views or offended anyone. Without reading the whole thing, that is the gist of what i've got out of it.


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