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Re: Renforums vs Jelly results [message #418586 is a reply to message #418584] Tue, 26 January 2010 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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and you acted arrogantly and unpleasantly in all of them...

I like how you don't have any logs to back this up, you are clearly mistaking me for someone else.
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lol, where the HELL are you getting this from? don't just make stuff up, it does more harm to your case than you think.

So you would blame yourself? Doubtful in all meanings of the word.

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i don't have logs, sorry, but every time i've seen you in game you tried to start flaming some other player for no reason at all... usually trying to round it off by the whole "1v1?" crap.

CLEARLY you are mistaking me for someone else, as i ask for 1v1s only against my ren buddies, never in an argument, or to prove something. You really don't know me at all Spoony.
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again, you're flailing wildly here. i don't particularly care if anybody joins my side; i'm perfectly happy if nobody agrees with me at all in debates like this. frequently, nobody does. it's no problem.

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well, i quite like debates... being proven right is nice, being proven wrong is worthwhile too since you come out knowing more than you did when you went in (which is why i think it's funny how angry some people get when it happens).


You don't mind when no1 joins your side, yet you like to be proven wrong, and being proven right? In other words, you get enjoyment out of every argument you go into? Interesting.

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the amusing thing is when people get so angry at losing that they pretend it never happened. you occasionally get it in renegade, and you get it ALL THE TIME in forum debates.


Once again implying that it is amusing to agrue, and that you like to get people angry...so much for helping the cause i suppose.

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i wasn't associating you with them; simply making a list of people who were the top contenders for not wanting to play if spoony was in charge.

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well, who? you, loki and nunega? none of which are a great loss tbh

You put us all together, as if all in an anti-spoony club together, when we do not talk at all. Just clearing that up.

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well, i quite like debates... being proven right is nice, being proven wrong is worthwhile too since you come out knowing more than you did when you went in (which is why i think it's funny how angry some people get when it happens).

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the amusing thing is when people get so angry at losing that they pretend it never happened.

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again, you're flailing wildly here. i don't particularly care if anybody joins my side; i'm perfectly happy if nobody agrees with me at all in debates like this. frequently, nobody does.

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no. i don't debate just for debate's sake... i debate things i think are relevant. and it's not my idea of a "life" either... in my case that would be putting on gigs, seeing others, hanging out with friends and playing pool


You lost me. So you like to be proven wrong in debates, and you like to be proven right in debates, yet you don't debate for debating sake? I don't see how you getting all defensive, and attacking others is a "relevant" debate. The fact that you led the renforums team, and they congratulated you on a job well done, and the fact that you thought that it wasn't cleared up enough makes me think you are the one insecure here. It's like you were begging people to see that you were a big aspect in the win.....if that is a "relevant" argument for you, than you need to go play more pool.

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i didn't randomly attack you. i just disproved a lot of what you said (i wasn't the only one) and you started attacking me, because you can't handle being wrong. i think it belies a vast intellectual insecurity what you're doing here... if you lose a debate, you think the opponent did something wrong in defeating you. you see this in renegade every now and again, but nowhere near as often as we see it in pointsfix debates.

I'm beginning to wonder if you can read properly or not. LEAVING AN ARGUMENT BECAUSE OF A LOST CAUSE, IS NOT LOSING an argument. There is no defined winner or loser in an "argument" like we had, which i still personally don't see as an argument. Read the topic again, i simply posted that i agree with you in most cases, that simply wasn't enough for you, so you turned against me. How is this ME ATTACKING YOU!? Seriously, are you that insecure that when one person says they don't agree with you fully, you feel the need to attack them? Man, that sucks. I'm much like you in that i don't mind being proven wrong, as long as the person proving me wrong isn't making a fool out of me as well. I don't know if that's what you felt i did or what, but you have seemed to never get over it since then.

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secondly i did not say it was solely the fact i led the team that we won. i said you need two main things to win comm matches: good strategy (that's me), AND a team who flawlessly carries out the strategy (that was everyone else). thus it's totally wrong of you to act like i was saying it was all me. i've been very clear about my praise for everyone on my team, which was genuine.

So in other words, it was 50% you, 50% the other 11 or so people? I wasn't there, so it very well could have been, just sounds to me like it was more of a team effort, than a win because the commander was good. I very much think that there is more to winning comm matches than just strategy, and a team that carries it out, like adapting, skills, etc, etc? Or am i alone on that one?

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the original pointsfix debate, the one in which you started your furious renerage against me despite me doing nothing wrong to you, was quite peaceful until you started bawling like a baby at being wrong


I lol'd. if your memory is that bad...well, just re read the topic, i was the one trying to keep the points fix debate to a minimum, before being attacked by you.
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it does not automatically follow that the opponent did something unfair in the process,

Unfair in an argument on a forums for an 8 year old game? Wasn't aware that there were laid out rules to our argument, or that either of us broke any of them.

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but there is a need to repudiate what TD and rcmorr said.

The need for you to take more credit, and to attempt to make them look foolish, or the need for joy in your life?


I would be the first to admit if i lost an argument, you on the other hand, are not willing to end it at that.

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