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Re: Pointfix poll. Bug or Balance? [message #415313 is a reply to message #415244]

Thu, 24 December 2009 08:40

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R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 24 December 2009 01:44

Points aren't so much directly related to base damage as you might be implying.

You can, for example, be winning the battle but have less points. It has happened to me in the past many times. I've lost games I was about to win via base destruction because the time ran out and the other team won because they had more points.

You can get points more ways than attacking the base, that's why they aren't a direct relationship to base damage.

this happened all the time in the bugged points system; it's quite rare with the original renegade points system.

buildings are by far the most valuable targets, so killing buildings or spending huge amounts of time hammering them with powerful tanks is gonna trump the enemy killing lots of tanks unless they kill A LOT of them, and i do mean a lot.

R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 24 December 2009 01:44

In fact, probably the most common method of getting points involves the exact opposite of attacking the enemy base: repairing your own base. You can spend the entire game repairing and end up in the top 5 of a match.

but you won't win the match. repairing gets you half the points the enemy got for doing the damage in the first place.

R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 24 December 2009 01:44

Now, I'm backing you up here. It is a good thing to implement. But realize, points are not in a direct relationship to damage dealt.

yes, they are. they really, really are. points gained are directly determined by two things and two things alone:
1. amount of damage dealt
2. the worth of the target. buildings are by far the "worthiest" targets. then you have all units. "worth" = credit cost.

R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 24 December 2009 01:44

Round 3.

It's impossible to win, so I'm throwing in the towel.

What do you people want from me? To fly to your house and give you chocolate and an apology?

I can't say pointsfix is bad.
I can't say pointsfix is good.
I can't say I don't give a crap either way.

Why are you guys picking on ME of all people?! There are other people in this thread... so why ME?

"picking on you"? i'm just responding to what you say. in these debates, the clear majority of the people on the anti-pointsfix side (not that i'm suggesting you are actually on that side at all) don't even do us that courtesy.

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