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Thu, 22 October 2009 20:51

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liquidv2 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 21:57

but for all intents and purposes he has to name them to discredit them and make them look bad!11

Cw.cc: Spoony, we don't like the pointmod and don't want to use it in clanwars. And you autoreport buffer maps.
Spoony: Fuck you, go make your own league.

fair enough; that's the easy way out of any argument
it's his so he can do what he wants with it; that doesn't mean he's not a penis though

I ran clanwars as a dictatorship, of course I did, but I always kept the floor open for debate. If someone could logically explain what was wrong with a decision, why it was unfair, it'd be changed. if that case was not successfully made, the decision would stand. Saying "but 90% of people agree with me!" doesn't fly, sorry.

But here's the thing. I went to incredible lengths to listen to people who went to incredible lengths to AVOID listening to me. You're asking: why is this admin not listening to the community? (which shows you don't even read the threads, but we'll ignore that). I reply: the people you're talking about don't listen to the admin. They outright disregard rules they don't like. This was true for EVERY SINGLE PERSON you were siding with. Cheaters, pointpushers and rulebreakers.

I don't make rules to please people who continually break them. If anything, when one of your rules has all the cheaters and pointpushers and rulebreakers in such terror, you might think you're on to something.

As for "go make your own league", you say that as if it isn't an extremely good argument. There is nothing, absolutely nothing stopping the likes of simpee making or buying his own league. You support each community's right to choose pointsfix or no pointsfix? Of course you do, you signed roni's petition. That means if Clanwars chooses to use the pointsfix, you ought to approve of tha,t and if some of its players don't like it, they can go make their own league. But you didn't, instead you supported the people like simpee who tried to subvert the admin's decision. When you spoke out in support of these saboteurs instead of the rightful league owner, you clearly didn't realise how much damage you were doing to your own credibility, but I would have hoped you'd have realised by now.

But still, I'm still the bad guy here, because I wanted to use the pointsfix in my league. Now, I'll repeat that statement.
I wanted to use the pointsfix in my league.

pay attention to the word "wanted". It was never compulsory. Who's the only person who hosted a clanwars league with the points bug, even after the pointsfix was created, in spite of his approval of the pointsfix? Apparently that makes me a "penis"... wanting to use the pointsfix, but still hosting a league with the pointsbug. But when cheaters and pointpushers actively subvert someone else's league, you don't have a single bad word to say about it. Like I said, I don't think you realise how much damage you're doing to your own credibility here.

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