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Re: Is Obamas Muslimness Bad? [message #390108 is a reply to message #390085] Thu, 11 June 2009 02:40 Go to previous message
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DeadX07 wrote on Thu, 11 June 2009 00:26

Whether you are republican, democratic or other. Whether you like Obama, Bush, or other. I think everyone can agree that any president who is big on government, is a bad president.

I think that one of the biggest problems we have in America, is that the government officials have forgotten that they work for the people, not the other way around.

This goes for cops and other small officials too.

Also, Obama was a US Senator before he was elected, so he was already part of the problem we're in to begin with.

Also, when you see a president who purchases a fancy new pen for each person just so they can sign a bill and look pretty, is a bad president who loves to spend money (your money by the way).

When I see a president use a standard #2 pencil or a bic pen for the first time I might not complain so much.

Controversy for the win.


No. You're wrong, and I disagree. Small government is weak, ineffective government. When government leaves a power vacuum, it's filled by people with deep pockets that aren't accountable to the people. No government-run healthcare? Let's have private insurance companies who can fuck you in the ass, laugh about it later, and there's nothing you can do about it, since they're in no way accountable to you. The biggest problem we have in America isn't government officials, and anyone who thinks so is just sucking Reagen's deceased cock (Every time someone says "government is the problem not the solution" or some variation, baby jesus sheds a tear). This is the way government works: You pay taxes, you participate in elections, you do your civic duty (Jury duty, occasional military draft, whatever), and in return you have a society that runs smoothly. You have someone to put a fire out if your house goes up in flames, you have someone to enforce laws, you have someone to pave the roads you drive on, etc etc. Less government means less of all that.

So, what is the biggest problem, then? The biggest problem in America is people don't want to get their heads out of their asses and look beyond their own interests. Nobody wants to pay taxes, nobody wants to cut down their entitlement, nobody wants to put off buying a house until they can afford it. People like you want a smaller government so they can pay less taxes -- More money in my pocket and to hell with everything else! The government isn't the problem, YOU'RE the problem.


Also, quit thinking everything Obama buys is with your money. He has a ridiculous amount of fundraiser money left over, and presidents get regular donations from private donors and lobbyists all the time (Although the later may be getting a crackdown once these crises are over). I wouldn't be surprised if half the stuff he buys is out-of-pocket (We've never had a poor president). Even if he was spending taxpayer money, Obama has the shittiest job in the world right now, and I do not envy him one bit. If he wants a pen, he'll buy a fucking pen, and I don't mind paying for it. It's the least I can do.


"Controversy for the win"? This is your idea of a controversy? How about secret torture camps in international waters where laws don't apply? How about lying about WMD? How about giving $700,000,000,000.00 to banks with no strings attached? And here you are bitching about pens.



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DeadX07 wrote on Thu, 11 June 2009 00:26

everyone can agree that any president who is big on government, is a bad president.

You may find this to be informative reading.

DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19

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