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Re: If you are not Muslim you should be raped and killed [message #382344 is a reply to message #382197] Fri, 24 April 2009 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Ryan3k wrote

the quran has a lot of contradictions; while you can find violent passages like that easily, you can also find passages like the one that says that murdering someone is equivalent to murdering the entire population of the world (in the eyes of 'allah')

moral of the story - it's all bullshit

the thing is, the prophet muhammed originally tried spreading his religion in the same sort of way that jesus is alleged to've done, i.e. non-violent preaching. for a few years, islam was a religion of peace (or at least, not one of violence) - trouble is, it didn't work - hardly anyone gave a shit, so he tried a different method, i.e. force.

there are some "peaceful" statements in the qur'an and hadith, most of which come from his early "career" before he re-invented himself as a murderous, slave-taking warlord. there are many people who like to use these statements to prove that islam is a "religion of peace", which is about as strong a case as saying Hitler was a peaceful man because he used to be a painter. sure, he was, but not a particularly successful one and if any objective historian was asked to make a list of the ten most important facts of Hitler's life, painting would probably not be there.

archerman wrote on Thu, 23 April 2009 18:05

i can make you stfu face to face in 30 sec in Turkish on this subject.

Judging by your abject failure to refute a single thing I've said in English, I find that rather difficult to believe. Your statement also sounds eerily like a threat.

archerman wrote on Thu, 23 April 2009 18:05

go learn some Turkish then come back.

Come back where, to an English-speaking forum? I never claimed I could speak Turkish, nor do I hang around places where speaking Turkish is the norm. If the language barrier is why you're utterly failing to refute a single thing I've said (I disagree - I think it's more a case that you don't know your religion particularly well), why don't you try improving your English instead of demanding I learn Turkish?

archerman wrote on Thu, 23 April 2009 18:05

so tell us what do you know about islam, like what fake translations your ideas are based on.

I've already told you some things I know about Islam. Three times in a row now you've demonstrated your inability to argue against them.


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