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| Re: Renegade Install Problems [message #380790 is a reply to message #380675] |
Fri, 17 April 2009 03:45   |
Pyr0man1c
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| danpaul88 wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 10:58 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Wed, 15 April 2009 10:56 |
| Saberhawk wrote on Tue, 14 April 2009 23:25 |
| matthnatow wrote on Tue, 14 April 2009 17:15 |
I recently formatted my computer and want to reinstall renegade on it. When I start the installation, everything goes fine until 13% installled. Then an error pops up and says "file system error: please insert renegade game disc." I can click retry but it just keeps happening. I dont get it, it installed fine the last time and the disc is not scratched!?!? Whats the deal here?
Matt
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It's very possible that your drive is semi-broken and/or dirty.
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It is RARE that your renegade disk is still in one peice from what I've heard. Renegade ahs to been put on the worst CD's EVER made.
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My original Renegade disk from the year Renegade was released still works, and it sat in my CD drive for years in constant use because I never bothered to install a no-cd crack. Maybe mine happens to be an exception to the rule...
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I myself broke my renegade game disk (which wasn't mine, and it wasn't the installation one).It carried on working without the disk or the no cd patch...
"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"
| AmunRa |
and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...
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Quotes| v00d00 |
A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.
Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.
Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).
Is it just me, or does that make more sense?
The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".
My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).
- v00d00
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| ELiT3FLyR |
ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.
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