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Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363810 is a reply to message #363798]

Thu, 18 December 2008 18:22

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null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

I don't expect you all to understand why Linkup would have succeeded because you were all too busy embracing XWIS and Clanwars.cc to open yourself to something better. If you ask anyone who knows about it, they'll tell you the extensive time, testing and money we put into building that project. Ironically, it was made by people that I'm pretty sure you all hate.

You think you could have provided a clan ladder that was "something better" than Clanwars.cc? If the answer's yes (and I have the feeling any competitive clan player would laugh at you at this point), then why didn't you? Why has the tangible contribution to this game in terms of a clan ladder (a necessary function of the game) been absolutely nothing?

Now, you're not alone in this regard; plenty of other people haven't provided a clan ladder for this game. Me and my colleagues at CW are the only people who have. Those are the facts... although that's irrelevant to you, and always has been. Whether players had a clan ladder to use or not never mattered to you, clearly.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

null -> Joined community in September 2002 after leaving WSE. Frequented IRC. Advised Crimson to branch into games other than Renegade (specifically Counter-Strike.) Former n00bstories halfop. Provided IRC server (2004) avast.n00bstories.com - Maintained relationships with underground groups to seek incoming attacks against n00bstories, warned Crimson and attempt to convince the perpetrators otherwise. Orchestrated many retaliatory acts against communities that threated n00bstories. Worked with Crimson on analysis of EA's move to XWIS and worked silently to lead an alternative to the unstable, stratified and buggy WOL clone. Asked to be banned many times so that nobody would suspect that I was working to help her.

Result: Banned several times (not by Crimson and not by my request). Lost half-op. After attempting many times to mend the gap by apologizing, introducing new people into the IRC (both me and my 30+ community members were harassed constantly) or even trying to positively contribute again, each attempt failed.

So in a nutshell, your boasting right is that you played a small part in undoing some of the damage you did in the first place? And you bitch at someone like luv2pb for not knowing about it when it was all secret anyway? Your stupidity is breathtaking.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

Now for fun, lets compare other people's contributions:

Spoony ->

June 2006:
Spoony tries to pedal Clanwars.cc as some sort of alternative to the WOL clan ladder. Granted one didn't exist, but Linkup and BHS were both moving to make one.

Why didn't they? Why didn't you? We already had one. We had one since 2002 and barring the odd ddos attack from losers like you, it's always been there. We actually gave a shit about the players. You didn't. You've done nothing to provide a clan ladder. Get that word: nothing.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

Renforums receives DDoS.

And you went and told Apoc that I did it... you lied... again.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

September 2006:
Spoony bitches to Apoc and Crimson gets shit on by Apoc because she did not throw herself all over the concept of sponsoring a generic, third party ladder system.

I did not complain to Apoc about that. As for "bitching to Apoc", you're the one with the habit of running to him and lying to make someone look bad, remember?

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

Result: Received Apoc and Crimson's support (somehow?). Became moderator of RenegadeCommunity.com forums.

Uh, if you mean moderator here, that's only in the CGN forum section (makes sense since the CGN was my creation in the first place) and the tactics section, neither of which carry a great deal of authority. It is a bit of an exaggeration to describe myself as a full moderator here.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

You all like to bitch about logic, so heres some flawed logic:

null:
Active community member -> Does Crimson's dirty work -> Attempted to provide a better WOL -> Stripped of ops and banned.

Yeah, you were SO ACTIVE that you've just had to tell everyone good things about you in the feeble hope it counteracts the bad things about you? That alone ought to give you a clue about how little you've contributed to the community... at least, it would if you were a little brighter than you are.

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

Spoony:
Shows up out of nowhere -> Spews some crap about CW.cc

sorry, shows up out of nowhere? spews some crap about Clanwars.cc? that's a really strange way of describing the fact that I've hosted a clan ladder for several years, something you did not care about the community enough to do. See above re: "nothing"

null.var wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 18:30

-> Considered a community leader

I never really considered myself a community leader outside of Clanwars.cc, but the bitterness in this statement is sufficiently satisfying that I don't feel like arguing against it.

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