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Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363798 is a reply to message #363458] Thu, 18 December 2008 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Lets look at what everyone has said:

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luv2pb
I would advise anyone with any kind of sanity NOT to waste their time reading that.

But how would he know...
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I didn't look at it so I don't know if he actually changed anything.

Oh wait I know why he wouldn't "advise" to read it. He was there and he knew how stupid he sounded and therefore decided to deter you all from witnessing his immense stupidity. Also, I assure you I didn't change anything, the nonsensical shit that you see in that log is from nobody but luv2pb.

Here is another one of my favorites:
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u6795
Can't fucking stand people that judge others by how long they've been around. That's basically all I have to say.

Thats funny:
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Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community?...it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.

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Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.

Huh ????? Try again before you contradict yourself. I guess only me and Havocide's seniority is open to judgment!

I don't expect you all to understand why Linkup would have succeeded because you were all too busy embracing XWIS and Clanwars.cc to open yourself to something better. If you ask anyone who knows about it, they'll tell you the extensive time, testing and money we put into building that project. Ironically, it was made by people that I'm pretty sure you all hate.

In fact, let me go ahead and examine JUST the Linkup dev team's relationship and contributory actions regarding the Renegade community.

xptek -> Joined community in 2003. Provided network defense, application security analysis, community support, Linkup coder, 2000+ posts on Renforums, frequented IRC. Received requests to retaliate against parties who DDoS'd Crimson's servers.Lead movement to incorporate APB and n00bstories into the development process of Linkup by consulting with them every step of the way.

Result: Banned twice. GZlined on IRC. left community in frustration.

null -> Joined community in September 2002 after leaving WSE. Frequented IRC. Advised Crimson to branch into games other than Renegade (specifically Counter-Strike.) Former n00bstories halfop. Provided IRC server (2004) avast.n00bstories.com - Maintained relationships with underground groups to seek incoming attacks against n00bstories, warned Crimson and attempt to convince the perpetrators otherwise. Orchestrated many retaliatory acts against communities that threated n00bstories. Worked with Crimson on analysis of EA's move to XWIS and worked silently to lead an alternative to the unstable, stratified and buggy WOL clone. Asked to be banned many times so that nobody would suspect that I was working to help her.

Result: Banned several times (not by Crimson and not by my request). Lost half-op. After attempting many times to mend the gap by apologizing, introducing new people into the IRC (both me and my 30+ community members were harassed constantly) or even trying to positively contribute again, each attempt failed.

I won't even get into how Kholdstare and Aprime are treated here. Aprime worked tirelessly to develop a beautiful interface for Linkup. Kholdstare has been loyal to Crimson for years, but has gotten absolutely nothing in return. Its disgusting.

Now for fun, lets compare other people's contributions:

Spoony ->

June 2006:
Spoony tries to pedal Clanwars.cc as some sort of alternative to the WOL clan ladder. Granted one didn't exist, but Linkup and BHS were both moving to make one. Renforums receives DDoS.

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The only gripe I can bring to mind is neither XWIS nor RenegadeCommunity.com have, or have ever had, anything in the way of clan support for Renegade. I'm just saying, I've brought up a suggestion which will benefit everyone and be of detriment to no-one, and it seems to have fallen on deaf ears. On the ears of Electronic Arts, however, it's resulted in our league being sponsored with hundreds of dollars' worth of prizes, which I think is food for thought for all the EA-haters on this forum who claim they don't support the older games.


September 2006:
Spoony bitches to Apoc and Crimson gets shit on by Apoc because she did not throw herself all over the concept of sponsoring a generic, third party ladder system.

Result: Received Apoc and Crimson's support (somehow?). Became moderator of RenegadeCommunity.com forums.

You all like to bitch about logic, so heres some flawed logic:

null:
Active community member -> Does Crimson's dirty work -> Attempted to provide a better WOL -> Stripped of ops and banned.

Spoony:
Shows up out of nowhere -> Spews some crap about CW.cc -> Considered a community leader

luv2pb:
Goes to n00bparty -> Becomes a n00bstories administrator


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Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
Do you maintain the website

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
like

luv2pb says:
andrew282 and ethenal do that

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
what about the servers

luv2pb says:
and are building the new ones as well

luv2pb says:
what about them?

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
do you debug them and such

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
if something goes wrong, you fix it yourself?

luv2pb says:
it is far and few between but on the rare occasion yes I deal with the servers

luv2pb says:
typically only the Ren one ever needs me - the others are pretty much trouble free

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
I wonder why all those things run trouble free

Joey - irc.supragame.com says:
somehow I really do not think it was due to your efforts, no offence


I seriously encourage you to read the log and see for yourself.
 
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