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Re: pawkyfox's Another Thread [message #355681 is a reply to message #355656]

Fri, 24 October 2008 16:45

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Quackpunk wrote on Fri, 24 October 2008 21:01

cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 23 October 2008 18:11

How does one's spirit not ascend with their body, though?

As for leaving my faith... the realization that the God that is in the Bible can't possibly exist and be loving, logical, and just. Also, what kind of God would want his creation to ignore the pleasures of the world? Promises of a higher purpose that cannot possibly be proven? Pfft.

Pleasures of this world? You mean sin? Sin is present to give man a choice between the temporary pleasure of this world verse the eternal gifts awaiting in heaven (God doesn't want robots following him). Have you ever read Brothers Karamazov, or any article related to the Grand Inquisitor Chapter in the book? God is loving and just, but who he is what he does is by NO means logical. In fact, the love that God displays towards us is of the most irrational sense out there. Trying to prove its existence based on sense and reason will only arouse more confusion and doubt. The only way to grasp this active love and the promise of eternity is by turning to Jesus Christ and his unconditional love.

Mystery is a evident characteristic of God, and if everything concerning him was proven, there would be no drive in people to know more, thus why he chooses to keep his promise, in an essence, unproven.

yeah but you only get one life, not fair if we can't experience it how you want to.

Muad Dib15 wrote on Fri, 24 October 2008 22:22

Think of it as training wheels. We say that our God is a loving and caring God. You would probably be a loving and caring parent right?

Think of it this way, Us (the human race) are like a 4 year old on our bike. God would be the parent running along side and helping them. So, would you rather have him continue running along side of you to catch you incase you fall? Yes, but God knows that in order to become a proficient bike rider, we have to learn to ride without having him catch us all the time when we fall. I hope you figure out where I'm going with this, as it was explained better in the book I read.

So you're saying.. if I fall off my bike, I'm fucked? because I sinned but God doesn't come down and give me advice (Advice being a bandage for the fall)..?

flawed if you ask me.

Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.

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