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Re: RIP charleston heston [message #327833 is a reply to message #327831]

Fri, 25 April 2008 12:10

GoArmy44
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cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 25 April 2008 13:44

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I agree with all of what you are saying, but unless I have missed it in your post you are forgetting the number one reason people should be able to own guns and that reason is to keep the power into the hands of the people, to prevent the government from encroaching on people's civil liberties. Putting the fear of the people into the minds of the government makes them...somehow unwilling to try to restrict liberties of the populace. I am willing to bet that was the reason the founders put the Second Amendment into the Constitution. They saw the surprise and utter frustration the British had during the Revolutionary War in trying to disarm and pacify the colonies.

Oh, trust me, I agree completely. That argument just seems to be completely ignored by gun-control advocates. It's absolutely essential that we have the ability to fight back against our government. My argument was just against the whole "ignorant paranoia" assumption and Goztow's fucked up idea that somehow there's no point to defending your home because you're not going to get the chance to.

For one of my college classes I had to do a research paper on gun control, in that I place a lot of emphasis on the psychological aspect of gun control. You're right, robbers aren't out to murder people, they aren't that kind of criminal even though if put into the wrong situation they can be, they want to steal and take things from others, it just makes sense to rob someone who would be unable to properly defend themselves. If the robber knew the said person had a firearm he would most likely want to avoid his house because coming upon a confrontation is not his prerogative, it is bad business to do so. This is just the psychological component, the physical is even more real, it is a simple fact that guns kill people, and yes...they even kill bad people who are out to do you harm.

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		RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Sat, 05 April 2008 22:08
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Canadacdn on Sun, 06 April 2008 19:02
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: GoArmy44 on Mon, 07 April 2008 14:28
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Canadacdn on Mon, 07 April 2008 16:52
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: GoArmy44 on Mon, 07 April 2008 17:22
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Blazer on Tue, 08 April 2008 13:06
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Oblivion165 on Thu, 10 April 2008 06:56
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Ghostshaw on Thu, 17 April 2008 09:24
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Thu, 17 April 2008 10:01
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Thu, 17 April 2008 22:21
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Starbuzz on Mon, 21 April 2008 08:45
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Mon, 21 April 2008 16:05
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: sadukar09 on Tue, 22 April 2008 17:27
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Tue, 22 April 2008 23:27
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Wed, 23 April 2008 16:04
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Wed, 23 April 2008 21:04
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Thu, 24 April 2008 04:22
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Thu, 24 April 2008 16:13
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Thu, 24 April 2008 16:34
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Thu, 24 April 2008 20:49
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: GEORGE ZIMMER on Fri, 25 April 2008 04:26
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Fri, 25 April 2008 05:29
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Fri, 25 April 2008 08:29
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: GoArmy44 on Fri, 25 April 2008 11:34
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Fri, 25 April 2008 11:44
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Fri, 25 April 2008 12:20
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Sat, 26 April 2008 02:13
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 06:07
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: sadukar09 on Sat, 26 April 2008 04:05
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Herr Surth on Sat, 26 April 2008 05:19
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 07:13
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Sat, 26 April 2008 08:18
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Ghostshaw on Sat, 26 April 2008 07:19
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 07:22
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Starbuzz on Tue, 29 April 2008 08:26
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 08:18
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 08:29
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: BlueThen on Sat, 26 April 2008 08:56
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Herr Surth on Sat, 26 April 2008 09:10
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Sat, 26 April 2008 10:40
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 11:31
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Rocko on Sat, 26 April 2008 13:51
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sat, 26 April 2008 14:31
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: Goztow on Sun, 27 April 2008 00:49
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: GoArmy44 on Sun, 27 April 2008 12:08
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: NukeIt15 on Sun, 27 April 2008 14:03
		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Sun, 27 April 2008 17:59
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		Re: RIP charleston heston By: cheesesoda on Tue, 29 April 2008 09:44
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