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Re: US bashing (I strike back) [message #311183 is a reply to message #311162]

Tue, 15 January 2008 14:11

Starbuzz
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R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 14:49

It is the same as trusting a convicted murderer with a gun to stand next to you and not kill you.

No, it's not the same thing. For once, you don't even have the facts to back up the claim that the other country is equal to a "convicted murderer." The mistake being made is that you making up your mind beforehand that they maybe evil.

Sure that maybe true or false since most people make that decision by relying on garbage from the mass media instead of coming to conclusions themselves by using facts available to them. In America, pretty much every township has an awesome public library full of knowledge and truth right under your noses.

Think about the people who love to have that opportunity but are stuck in nations whose governments feed and control the people through mass media.

In America, even with knowlege and truth everywhere, people still insist on believing what comes from the fucking TV and the latest rumor.

Remember, if history bores you, you might as well go back to your ordinary dawn to dusk life.

The whole story of the Cuban Missile Crisis has been severely twisted and an altogether different version, one that puts the Russians in very bad light, presented to kids in American high schools. I know this because I went through this. I just sat through it all in disbelief.

I went to one of the most prestigious high schools in Pennsylvania. Yet, the history teacher (in 11th grade) made us all to do the "duck-and-cover" bullshit in class to mimick a Russian nuclear bomber attack!

And the word "Turkey" was not mentioned at all in class. I am pretty sure most schools here do the same.

R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 14:49

I'm not even in the same argument as you. I'm not arguing facts, I'm arguing ethics. The result of what could happen, how many lives could be lost.

That's a nice (and lame) try to get out of the hole you dug for yourself.

I am not sure when you decided to pull the "ethics" crap. Because quite honestly, was the United States being "ethical" in putting advanced and faster Jupiter nuclear missiles in Turkey in 1961?

If America had not done that to the USSR, the Soviet's would not have deployed nuclear missiles in Cuba in wrathful retaliation so quickly the following year in 1962.

You seriously and honestly believe that an educated race like the Russians were going to nuke the world? Get over it.

So, there goes your "ethics" argument to hell.

R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 15 January 2008 13:49

Because honestly, I hate history, and it puts me to sleep. I have little to no interest in it what so ever, and I have hardly a clue at what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to that.

This is the main source of the problem. Without a solid foundation in history, proven facts, figures, and statistics, you are in no position whatsoever to get into arguments involving them.

The whole world opinion of the United States has dangerously deterioted due to this stubborn refusal to learn the past. Even Europe laughs now.

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