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Re: US bashing (I strike back) [message #310989 is a reply to message #310940] Mon, 14 January 2008 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11


What the hell are you talking about?! I didn't think it was that possible to be that thick headed!


Ad hominem.

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

What purpose would Cuba have with WMDs in such an isolated area with absolutely nothing near then except for the US which they aren't allied with.


What purpose does any country have with nukes?

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

-There is a war going and supplies are kind of needed. There was no reason for Cuba to have WMDs because there wasn't any reason for them to go to war, as far as I know.


Bay of pigs.

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

-Delivering weapons to continue a war is different than creating nukes just for fun. For one reason one of the above doesn't destroy everything in a 2 mile radius.


Bombs and weapons are bombs and weapons. It's simply a matter of degree.

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

Countries in Europe and Asia all live neighboring each other. If they wanted to start a war with each other, then what is the point of porting the WMDs across the Pacific ocean right next to one single country? The only reason is if they wanted to launch the missiles onto the US, that is the only reason I can think of, short of simply hiding missiles for later use on other countries, which even in that case, it was good for them to be dismantled.

Lets say the Soviets wanted to build nukes to attack lets just say for the sake of argument, China. Why would they port missiles across the Pacific and hide them in Cuba, to which the US is well within the firing range of, only to be later transported back?


It's a common logical falicity in these kinds of discussions (And I've had plenty of these kinds of discussions) to equate Communist countries with Soviets. The USSR (United Soviet Socialist Republic) is a Union of 15 states into one whole, similar to the USA. Having that said, Most communist countries (Portions of East Europe, China, North Korea, CUBA) ARE NOT SOVIET.

If anyone was going to launch nukes from Cubian soil at the East coast, it would be Cubans. And can you blame them? How many decades of imperialism and being treated as second-class citizens in their own country did they suffer through before Castro takes over?

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

It is completely different that dropping a bomb from a plane that took off from the West Cost. First of all, moving missiles into Cuba is like preparing to fire them onto the US. The US having a bomber that can take off from the West coast and travel to Moscow isn't preparing for an attack, it is waiting to be attacked. One is simply offense, and the other one is defense.


I fail to see the difference. A bomber parked in Washington State with a nuke loaded that has the word "Moscow" painted on it is no better than an ICBM in Havana with the word "New York" painted on it.

Oh, and nukes can't be defense. Ever. To illustrate this point, imagine using a Nuclear Strike Beacon to defend against an attack in Renegade.

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

There is absolutely no reason why the US would pick a nuclear war with some other county for no reason.


Read the OP. Apperantly, there is a reason, as popular US sentiment is that the USSR has done something terribely wrong in being a Communist state. So much so that blame for two wars they didn't partake in and four decades of an arms race "falls equally" to them.

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

And that is the reason why we can't trust anyone else with a nuke.


And who elected the US to be the sole Nuclear guardian in the world?

R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 14 January 2008 17:11

Haven't you heard the expression if you can't have something done right, you have to do it yourself? Well, it applies here. We know we can trust ourselves to not offensively fire a nuke without warning on another nation, but how can we be so sure that some other nation feels the same way? Call it paranoia if you will.


You THINK you can trust yourself not to nuke countrys into oblivion. Can anybody else trust you?

And considering the list of nuclear attacks that have ever occured, the US's track record isn't looking too good.

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