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Re: New Pentagon footage from hotel [message #269185 is a reply to message #269176]

Wed, 27 June 2007 11:54

IronWarrior
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Crimson wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 12:58

IronWarrior wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 10:39

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8

I dont see no plane hitting a building here, to be honest, I would expect a 757, whatever it was, to do more damage then that, lol.

To me, looking at it, that looks more like a missile hit.

But, am sure there is more video capture like this, would be nice to see more impact angles, to get a bigger picture before deciding for real, if it was a plane or a missile.

warranto wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 12:29

Of course not! It's a biased source! Wink

Is there such a thing as an un-biased source?

Me thinks not.

The problem is, in that video, you are probably imagining that you're looking at a 2-story building. That is a 5 story building! (Or is it 6)... it's a problem on scale. The building is so huge that you can't tell how far away the camera is from the plane.

For reference:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=arlington,+va&i e=UTF8&ll=38.870654,-77.055724&spn=0.014367,0.02002&t=k&z=16& ;amp ;amp ;om=1

This is the Pentagon from Google Maps. Notice the scale at the bottom of the screen.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mall+of+america+min nesota&ie=UTF8&ll=44.854256,-93.242319&spn=0.013082,0.02002&t=k& amp; amp; amp;z=16&om=1

This is the Mall of America in Minnesota. I believe it's the biggest mall in the US with an indoor amusement park and over 500 stores. The Pentagon is almost as big as this mall!

It's a problem of scale. Since you haven't ever seen the Pentagon up close, in person, your brain has trouble fathoming just how huge this building is, so it's easy for you to think that something rather small and missile-sized struck it rather than a commercial aircraft.

But, I'll keep coming back to this. The plane passed right by Blazer's condo in Arlington, Virginia and he saw it with his own eyes, moments before it struck the building. He SAW the plane. He SAW the logo on it. He could see the people inside it.

Whatever the size of the building is, I still see no plane, but it still does look like a missile hit. Wink

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