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Re: Renguard vs sound files + advantage skins [message #251569 is a reply to message #251550]

Sun, 25 March 2007 07:36

puddle_splasher
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JohnDoe wrote on Sun, 25 March 2007 06:21

Javaxcx wrote on Sun, 25 March 2007 01:28

Actually, there are tonnes of passive ways of testing whether or not someone has a cheat userside. If you are repeatedly subject to being targetted from unreasonable distances, being shot from unreasonable distances, or otherwise being subject to unreasonable hositility ingame from the same player; you're dealing with a cheater. You don't need to affect MY game in any appreciable way to test whether some fucktard is cheating.

Of course, you could always just take my suggestion from before and program your OWN renguard and run it the way you like.

OK I'll try a step for step procedure this time. I'm going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling that even someone that seemingly combines arrogance and ignorance should be able to follow me on this:

1. Do you agree that this: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wmFTGTH-k0) is a cheat?
2. Do you want people to continue being able to use this sound in Renguard protected servers?
3. How are you possibly going to catch someone using it if a) it's not picked up by anti-cheat software and b) it doesn't even increase the range of the sound, thus always leaving open the possibility of fair play?

I think if you dodge these simple and fair questions, your opinion on this matter can be disregarded. Actually, anyone can ask themselves these questions to determine which side of the fence they're on. Having compulsive cheaters like SilentKane agreeing with you should be a subtle hint...

JD, 1) Yes, 2) No, 3) You won't.

If you had left your questions, closed (answering yes or no)!!! Then you would have done yourself a lot of credit for summing up this whole topic with a few direct questions.

However, by leading players to agree with your opinion is an un-acceptable ploy. To state that an adverse opinion CAN!! be disregarded is unfair, as that is only your opinion of right and wrong. What is wrong for you, may be be correct for someone else. Having to influnece players to vote your way, by dredging up in your words, "Having compulsive cheaters like......". is also wrong. Again you are evidently attempting to influence the players. "SK"....I have never met or played against him and I steadfastly refuse to accept someones word as "The Gospel Truth" regards them cheating until verified by myself. Oh do not get me wrong, I will always be suspicious of any said person, until proven otherwise.

IMHO, The questions that you pose, if answered honestly, by any player, without taking due regard to your last part of the statement, will indeed give you the result that you so evidently seek.

Is it now possible for "JD" to run a poll on his questions and if so, "WHAT" can, in reality, be done with the results?

[Updated on: Sun, 25 March 2007 07:56]

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