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Re: GRRRRRRRRRR [message #235028 is a reply to message #235020]

Tue, 19 December 2006 12:21

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fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 14:04

j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 09:50

fl00d3d wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 01:26

I'm not going to counter argue your post because you didn't prove a damn thing. If other people in this community feel I should, then I'll take their advice and continue to argue with you. Otherwise, I think I've proven myself quite well, kid.

All you proved was that blacks commit more crimes. You proved no correlation between the race and crime. Like I said, you only looked at one variable. Environment effects the outcome of people GREATLY. If you take a black person from a rich family and a black person from a poor family, they're not each as likely to commit a crime. It's not genetics, it's environment.

If the black person comes from a rich family, then their parents were driven, educated, and moral enough to pull their heritage out of a rut and bring their children up properly so that they are less likely to comit the crimes. You can argue that poverty causes crime but when was the last time you saw someone murder someone to feed their family? Or mug someone so they could pay the rent? Crimes (mostly violent crime) are almost always comitted for selfish reasons. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

That doesn't prove anything you're saying, though. That doesn't prove that blacks are more likely to commit crimes. All you said was that people are selfish and will commit crimes for personal gain. Whites, Asians, Africans, Blacks, etc... all commit the same crimes and for the same reasons.

If you were to takes whites out of their middle class lifestyles and put them into poverty... after a generation or two, you would see the same crime rates in whites as you would blacks.

Or if you trade children. Give white families black babies and give black families white babies, and have each raise the kids as they would their own. You cannot tell me that the black babies would still grow up thugs and the white babies would grow up respectable people. THEREFORE, it's the environment that causes the crime rates to be higher in black communities than in white communities.

Edit: You said that you didn't turn out a criminal, who's to say that others wouldn't? An exception to a rule doesn't discredit the rule.

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