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Re: anyone looking to rent server PLEASE READ!!! [message #223737 is a reply to message #223732] Sat, 30 September 2006 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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xptek wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 16:20

It's supposed to be a plaintext chat protocol. That's kind of the point.

I'd suggest you reevaluate your "insecure" judgement when you've developed a few IRCds yourself.
That is the point of the protocol: to be an insecure plaintext protocol. And because you have worked with IRCd doesn't make you a security expert on it.

xptek wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 16:20


What? Why would I hack a server because I have some retarded certs?
I was making a point ... and that point was, that just because you know something about servers, services, or protocols doesn't mean that you understand the security risks with it. I, on the other hand, have done all of those things and have a lot of experience with "hacking". And not the script kiddie, "lets download a point-and-click port flooder" kind of hacking either. That doesn't count.

xptek wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 16:20


Sniff port 80, change your forums password, and see what you come up with. Oh and maybe use a switch so your data isn't blasted to every computer on the hub and its uncle?[/size]


Dedicated servers are usually hooked up to their own port on a switch, yes. But ports can be mirrored, clients can be compromised, and you still have a protocol with no built-in security to stop things like 'Joe Anonymous' from whois'ing your IP/hosting/etc. information or sending you .exe's cuz you're a dumbass and you accepted the file. It's definitely not built to be secure. Thus why any intelligent host would be selective about how they permit the protocol on their network.

Yoshimitsu wrote on Sat, 30 September 2006 16:22

That only works if you're physically in between the the client computer and the modem.


You wouldn't be more wrong. ^^

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