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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #202362 is a reply to message #188804] Sat, 03 June 2006 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
JohnDoe is currently offline  JohnDoe
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Right. But the idea is relating to the belief in someone that they aren't going to screw you, as you have no way of actually knowing if they will.


You don't know if your eyes or whatever will screw you, either...it belongs to the basics that you have to live with.

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Of course, for that to be true, someone must have to foolishly follow the "seeing is believing" phrase. At least in relation to God not showing himself as people would expect.

I'm relating more to the idea of religous experts being able to walk you through their idea of proof for God's existance. The same as scientists, they rely on their own means to get you to believe them.


Yes, the watchmaker stuff, but didn't I already explain before, why that logic is flawed?

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Most things have their roots in religion. That doesn't ignore the idea that it was supported and held true by science.


Those roots however gave them the feeling that it must be that way...but yes, since they found "evidence" that the sun moves around the earth, I could say you're sort of right on that occasion. They eventually got it right, tho and I have faith in science being able to prove that the universe wasn't created by some kind of "God", seeing as how unrealistic the alternative seems.

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If you have to choose to believe things that can not be 100% proven, that you must trust that you are not going to be subject to a consipracy, why, based on that, does God not fit in to the same "subject to flaws, but does not mean its untrue" category?


I didn't say that we have to believe things that aren't 100% proven in general, I said that we can believe things that are 99.9999% certain, the kind of things that can only be flawed if all of a sudden everyone's senses are wrong or the equipment that we built for that reason chooses to malfunction all over the world...


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