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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #201735 is a reply to message #188804] Wed, 31 May 2006 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I can't tell you which rules Scientology uses, so I can't help you there.

Two rules that the Roman Catholic church uses, off the top of my mind, are: Is that the Text must have been written by someone close to Jesus. And, in order for something to qualify as a "miracle" is must have no scientific explanation.


We're not talking about the rules of a single church, we're talking about rules that determine what we can call religion in general. Scientology is an exemple for even a sci-fi novel being sufficient.

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Not the point. It can still be falsified, and held as a scientific truth. The idea of a religion being false has nothing to do with the existence of God.


...and it can be refuted, something you can't do with false religions.

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So was the existence of the light bulb. But after close to 1000 attempt at proving it, it was finally done. There have not even been that many religions created (as far as I can tell).


If there were no clue or evidence that it could work, the belief would be as irrational as the belief in God. I don't know what the stages were, but I'm guessing there were clues from the start.

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That Philosophy, which is on the exact same level as Religion, can be used to back up science. The idea of being unable to prove things as being an acceptable form of backup.


Acceptable for what?

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That entire exchange was relating back to your first post. I keep talking about it can't be proven that it happened to us, and you keep arguing with my by talking about who life can be created through a chemical reaction. The same argument in instance three as it is in instance 1. If you had not been attempting to argue with me on that respect, you would not have continuously related your response with my argument.


I'm saying that it's the only way that has been proven to work, thus believing in it is logical.

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That's nice. But I said to prove it. Telling me what someone else thinks is the truth, with his own evidence to back it up is evil, remember? After all, Religion does that, and Religion is bad!


It's the friggan definition...next thing you'll tell me is that I can't know what a chair is.

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I have as much ability to back up my points, as you do yours.


Ability, yes. Too bad you didn't even make a point.

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Ok, so lets see the argument here.
You: Religion got it wrong, therefore God is false!
Me: Science has got it wrong as well.
You: That doesn't count! It was mislabelled!


How thick are you? You can't blame science for something that isn't science.

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You keep saying it, yet you never actually do it.


I however could...you don't have that possibility with religion.

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Never said it could be done, or was required to be done.


It is, if you want to prove something.

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It was the point though, or at least how you stated it.

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If I wanted and was smart enough, I could teach myself what I need to prove the existance of molecules...can you do the same with the religious text?

Remember this?

Let me highlight the "point" for you.

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prove the existance of molecules......can you do the same(prove the existance of )with the religious text?


Whether or not the religion I may or may not belong to (when did I state I was religious?) is bogus has no effect on the existence of God.


My point is that I could prove the existance of molecules while you can't prove the existance of God.



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