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Re: Protests over a cartoon... wtf. [message #201132 is a reply to message #201107] Sat, 27 May 2006 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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warranto wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 20:35

JohnDoe wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 02:23

warranto wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 16:37

JohnDoe wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 13:11

Warranto is right. God's existance can neither be disproven not proven.

But, from a logical point of view, assuming that there is something you have no proof of whatsoever makes no sense at all.


Oh! Oh! The "You have no proof, therefore it does not exist" arguement. I LOVE completely obliterating this arguement!

At one point in time, no had any proof of the following:

1 Billion dollars
Anything at the molecular level
The shape of North America (or any landmass)
The "fact" that the earth orbits the sun
electricity
motor vehicles
the wheel

etc.

A bit of trivia. At one point around the end of the 19th century (or 1900's, I forget), the Scientific authority in Britian actually declared (or was about to declare) science to be obsolete as everything there was to discover, had been discovered.



Ouch. I thought you were a bit more clever after your first post.
I said that it doesn't make sense to assume something exists than you have no proof whatsoever for. I didn't say it doesn't exist, because that's impossible to find out. Get the difference? So yea gj obliterating something I haven't said, genius.

I'm saying that assuming that there is a planet with pink unicorns which are high on glue is nuts, because there is no proof whatsoever. I can't however say that it doesn't exist for sure. Exchange the unis with god and you get the picture.


What you said was that it doesn't make any sense to assume something exists, when you have no proof of it.

That's what I countered.

At one point in time, someone thought the idea of electricity might exist, and others thought that it couldn't. However, we know (at least now) that it made perfect sense to assume electricity existed, and that to assume the idea of electricity made no sense, was wrong.

At some point in time, people thought the world was flat, and one person decided to challenge that, stating that it was round. He was deemed insane, because the idea that the world was round didn't make any sense.

Assuming something is "nuts" to believe in, just because of the lack of proof, is ignorance at its finest.

The argument you make is simply a variation of the argument summary I made. It has every relevance to the problem at hand, and as such your attempt at making it irrelevant due to me arguing the "wrong thing" is null and void.


First off, there is a difference between the assumption that something exists and something existing.

The people that thought electricity existed, that the world was around, that the earth moved around the sun, etc had either CLUES OR EVEN EVIDENCE that gave them the idea in the first place. Did any caveman have that idea? No, because he didn't stumble on any clues. You're doing the complete opposite...you have no clues or evidence whatsoever that God exists, but you believe in it. It's a random thought just like my pink unicorns and believing that there is any truth behind it is, yes, nuts.


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