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Tue, 28 March 2006 14:36

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Dover wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 15:51

j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 14:23

Dover wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 14:47

No, telemarketers aren't "honest people". Would you say Nazis who worked at concentration camps were just "Honest people working for a living"? No, they make their money at the expense of other people, and so do telemarketers. Who has the AUDACITY to become a telemarketer with the reputation they have?

Yes, they are. German soldiers during WW2 weren't necessarily Nazi. They were controlled and ordered by the Nazi government. You were forced to do what you were told. Most people didn't actually believe in the practices they were being forced into performing. However, the true enemy of WW2 was the Nazi leaders and the SS.

Since when does "Just following orders" make you innocent? If you did what they did, you're a bad person, no matter who told you to.

And for the record, it was the SS that operated the camps, not the soldiers.

j_ball430 wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 14:23

The reputation of telemarketers has no bearing on the job availability. If it's the only job available or the highest paying job, you're going to take it. Anybody with any logic and reasoning would do that. If I was given the chance to be a telemarketer, I would. Making $14/hr to make phone calls and getting rewarded for making a sale; why would someone give up that opportunity just because of the "reputation"? If you would... good luck in the real world with that attitude.

If you were offered a job of $14/hr to torture jews and were rewarded for killing them, would you do it?

I can't sit there and bug people when they quite obviously (I say obviously based on 99% of answers that telemarketers get) don't want whatever garbage it is that they are being peddled. My morals wouldn't let me, because I know I hate being called by people I don't know selling junk I don't want.

Have you noticed NOBODY in this topic as of now has said "I hear them out, and if they're offering something I want, I make a deal."? That's because telemarketers do nothing but bring discomfort to innocent people. If it were otherwise, telemarketers wouldn't have the bad rep they do.

Let me guess, you're a liberal? (off topic, but I feel that I make an accurate assumption)

If they're being forced to do something against their will... yeah, it does make them innocent. If you're raped, does that not make you innocent? You're being forced to perform a sexual act, yet the victim is still performing the act. Then by your logic, they're not innocent. Now you've just made all rapists wrongfully accused.

Calling people and advertising is an equivelant of killing jews? You're a member of PETA, aren't you?

If telemarketing didn't work, it wouldn't be worth spending the money on it, now would it be? Corporations don't just go, "hey, let's waste millions of dollars on telemarketing just for the Hell of it!" They know that it works. Sure, a majority of people don't buy into the products, but for the percentage that it does work on... they make a profit off of.

Also, if you're going to bitch about telemarketing, then you better bitch about TV commercials, radio commercials, and road bilboards because they do the same thing. If I see a Budweiser TV commercial, I'm not interested in buying Budweiser, but that doesn't mean that it won't work on others.

Also, yeah, there is a shortage of jobs. Unemployment is at 5%, which means that it's NOT at full employment (4% unemployment). If it's not at full employment, it means that there's not enough jobs for there to be full employment. Hence an obvious observation of a shortage of jobs.

whoa.

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