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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184243 is a reply to message #184222]

Fri, 30 December 2005 23:23

warranto
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light wrote on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:50

warranto wrote on Sat, 31 December 2005 15:46

Of course using that logic, I can assume you don't lock your doors, you don't use any sort of anti-virus or firewall, and you never worry about securing anything of value.

Afterall, they can ALL be bypassed, so why even bother in the first place?

I do them all, but I don't expect them to block all intruders, if someone really wants to get into my system or house they will.

I don't instantly presume "the house is locked, it must be secure". Were as some players presume "he is using RG, he doesn't cheat".

Besides, RG isn't about protecting me, it's about 'protecting' the servers, so your example doesn't really give a decent parallel.

Exactly, you know taking those precautions don't prevent ALL occurances of being bypassed, yet you still use them. They are there for two reasons, being a) it helps protect your interests and b) it's better than not having anything at all. However all forms of security have a flaw: they can be bypassed.

By your own admittance:

Quote:

Player + RenGuard = Can Cheat (harder to do I admit, but definately possible)
Player + No RenGuard = Can Cheat (easily)

It is harder to cheat than if there is no Renguard, as it will prevent all but the hardcore people from cheating.

It gives a perfect parallel, you just failed to see it. One stops people that would like to prohibit your enjoyment of life regarding personal interests, and the other one stops people that would like to prohibit your enjoyment of life regarding personal interests. I'll leave you to decide which one is Renguard, and which one is the "other" security feature.

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		The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 02:29
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Jecht on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:38
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Fri, 30 December 2005 09:53
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: hunteroo2 on Fri, 30 December 2005 12:44
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Fri, 30 December 2005 11:43
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 13:41
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 14:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 15:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: mision08 on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:12
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Ma1kel on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:13
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:32
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Ma1kel on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:23
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SuperTech on Fri, 30 December 2005 16:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:46
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 17:59
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:00
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:11
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:34
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Fri, 30 December 2005 20:13
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 30 December 2005 18:21
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:46
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:47
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Fri, 30 December 2005 23:23
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 19:59
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Fri, 30 December 2005 21:00
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Xpert on Fri, 30 December 2005 22:40
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Fri, 30 December 2005 23:28
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 00:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: almor999 on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:33
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:19
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Areilius on Tue, 03 January 2006 06:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 14:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: ben5015se on Sat, 31 December 2005 15:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Sat, 31 December 2005 16:26
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 31 December 2005 19:15
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Sun, 01 January 2006 10:07
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 03:12
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sat, 31 December 2005 03:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: warranto on Sat, 31 December 2005 09:49
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 31 December 2005 11:37
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sat, 31 December 2005 12:02
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Sat, 31 December 2005 06:55
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sat, 31 December 2005 08:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 10:42
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Crimson on Sat, 31 December 2005 19:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sat, 31 December 2005 20:53
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: NeWbSh0T on Sun, 01 January 2006 10:32
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: cmatt42 on Sun, 01 January 2006 20:17
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:09
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 01 January 2006 11:36
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Goztow on Sun, 01 January 2006 12:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:22
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Aircraftkiller on Sun, 01 January 2006 14:49
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Cobalt on Sun, 01 January 2006 15:06
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: light on Sun, 01 January 2006 15:29
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Mon, 02 January 2006 06:24
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Mon, 02 January 2006 07:08
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Mon, 02 January 2006 12:27
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Sniper_De7 on Mon, 02 January 2006 15:41
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dan on Mon, 02 January 2006 13:39
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:25
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dave Mason on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:38
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dan on Mon, 02 January 2006 16:50
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Renx on Mon, 02 January 2006 19:11
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: PaRaDoX on Mon, 02 January 2006 20:05
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Goztow on Tue, 03 January 2006 00:33
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		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: SCOTT9 on Fri, 13 January 2006 08:20
		Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users By: Dave Mason on Fri, 13 January 2006 11:51

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