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Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once [message #114613]

Tue, 14 September 2004 11:34

Fabian
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bigjoe14

Yes, JFK did start the Vietnam conflict. Yes, it was a French-Vietnamese conflict. But the French were defeated. Then the Japanese stepped into Vietnam. They were defeated also. Then the UN got involved to watch over the surrender of the Japanese. The UN split Vietnam into North and South (North being the communist portion) and funded and supported South Vietnam. Once the Berlin Wall was constructed in the 1960's, JFK stepped up our involvement even more in Vietnam. More than the UN allowed us to. Then once Kennedy was shot in the head and Lyndon B. Johnson took over as President, he screwd up things even more than Kennedy did.

You still don't get it. He started the US invlovment, but he did not start the original conflict. I hate to spend too much time on it because it doesn't matter too much. Moving on...

Doitle

Do you think a child crys more every night, when they're father is killed by a thug on the street, than if he were killed by iraqi mortar fire. I doubt that. I doubt a child would ever say "My father died because of gang crime, no biggee... I'm just so fortunate that my father DIDNT die defending his country, for if that were true I just don't know how I'd go on"

Im talking about both US soldiers and Iraqi civilians. Between the deaths on both sides, the destruction and PTSD that so many people will get from being in a warring state for so long, the emotional costs of a war are much higher than that of a murder/murders.

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		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: bigejoe14 on Sun, 12 September 2004 20:29
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Crimson on Mon, 13 September 2004 00:20
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Phoenix - Aeon on Mon, 13 September 2004 05:08
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: warranto on Mon, 13 September 2004 05:44
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: cheesesoda on Mon, 13 September 2004 07:03
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Crimson on Mon, 13 September 2004 09:41
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Hydra on Mon, 13 September 2004 11:27
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Mon, 13 September 2004 14:05
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Doitle on Mon, 13 September 2004 15:17
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Hydra on Mon, 13 September 2004 15:32
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Mon, 13 September 2004 15:52
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Nodbugger on Mon, 13 September 2004 15:57
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Mon, 13 September 2004 16:32
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: bigejoe14 on Mon, 13 September 2004 18:38
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Mon, 13 September 2004 18:50
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: spoonyrat on Mon, 13 September 2004 19:16
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Doitle on Mon, 13 September 2004 19:22
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: NHJ BV on Tue, 14 September 2004 05:59
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 14 September 2004 09:56
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Tue, 14 September 2004 11:34
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 14 September 2004 11:55
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Hydra on Tue, 14 September 2004 12:21
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Tue, 14 September 2004 12:58
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: bigejoe14 on Tue, 14 September 2004 13:25
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Nodbugger on Tue, 14 September 2004 13:36
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Tue, 14 September 2004 13:38
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Nodbugger on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:11
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:18
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Nodbugger on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:45
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Tue, 14 September 2004 14:48
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Tue, 14 September 2004 15:01
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Nodbugger on Tue, 14 September 2004 15:05
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Hydra on Tue, 14 September 2004 20:56
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Doitle on Wed, 15 September 2004 04:26
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Fabian on Wed, 15 September 2004 12:09
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Vitaminous on Wed, 15 September 2004 13:00
		Lets put a positive spin on some facts for once By: Javaxcx on Thu, 16 September 2004 11:31

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