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Fahrenheit 9/11 [message #101387] Wed, 14 July 2004 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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ViperFUD

First off, I want to start by complementing SuperFlyingEngi. First, you claim to be 14; then you prove that you have to be at least twice that with your accurate grasp of the english language and laws of grammar. I'm also impressed with your knowledge of American government, and current events.



No, I quite literally am 14. Just because I choose the path of logical reasoning over that of borderline illiteracy doesn't mean I can't be 14. Thanks for the compliment.

ViperFUD

Could you provide a link to this, please? I'm not saying he did or didn't, I just wanna read it. Preferably on cnn.com, or usnews or something (ie, not "The Onion" Smile ).



Hm...I saw President Bush saying this on the news, CNN I believe it was, but I can't find a transcript for it. A rough highlight of what he said about ddefending the war can be found here, http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=2ACDAB99-362C-4399-BF9053D983E2F0AC, where he defends going into Iraaq despite the Senate Intelligence Commity releasing a report the serious flaws with our pre-war intelligence.

ViperFUD

Please. The war in Iraq perhaps increased the hatred of Americans in NOT the Middle East, but it's doubtful that it changed how people felt about us there. Maybe more fear, but probably not hatred. People who hated us before hate us now. People who liked us (and hated those who hated us ... enemy of my enemy, and all that) still like us, and are glad we killed people they hated.



Attacking a country, especially in the Middle East, is going to raise resentment by the people there. If a man sees his child killed by a U.S. bomb, he's going to be quite angry, and influenced by all of the hate propaganda over there, he may feel like he needs revenge against the hateful United States. When Israel was first started and was attacked by the rest of the Middle East right after the country was established, we sent our U.S.S. North Carolina over and started shelling the Bekaa Valley with 17-inch shells that weigh as much as a Volkswagen car. That's where a whole lot of the terrorists we are currently fighting come from, but we Americans like to forget about that.

I agree with you when we say that we should always support our troops, and never become hateful towards them because of what they have been ordered to do. If they are going to die for us to live safely, no matter how just the cause, they should always be respected.

EDIT: Spelling errors.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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