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Fahrenheit 9/11 [message #101199]

Tue, 13 July 2004 07:28

SuperFlyingEngi
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I thought he wanted them to talk to their kids about the war and have a recruiting officer come visit them, not necessarily get congressmen to forcibly send their kids into the armed services...

And it really is something of a problem in America where those who decide whether the country should go to war don't actually feel the impact of the war on them, except when the stock in some of their companies goes up, up, up.

Back in the 1800's era, at least in Britain, all of the governing people with important positions were considered cowardly if they did not participate in one of the country's wars. And being considered cowardly was not a good thing back then.

But now we have a system where the rich people who could actually make a profit from launching a war don't suffer from a war like the people in poor communities where military service may be the only way out of a slump. And the war in Iraq isn't just a little police action - it's the biggest loss of armed services personnel since Vietnam. And for what? Disarming the weapons of mass destruction that weren't there? Oh, but what about that Saren gas artillery shell? Well, I don't think some artillery shells with Saren gas in them are going to pose much of an imminent threat to the United States, first and foremost the fact that Saddam didn't exactly have the capabilities to shoot artillery shells over the Atlantic Ocean, and once you shoot ballistic projectiles that far, who knows where they are going to end up. And the entire concept of nuclear weapons was a joke. They only had a couple rudimentary experiments going on that basically lead up to nothing.

This is a war we shouldn't be in, just like the Senate commity saying a couple days ago that the reasoning for this war was wrong, and then Bush making a public appearance where he said, "I know the cause was wrong, but it was really right." And too many people are dying for an unjust cause.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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		Fahrenheit 9/11 By: SuperFlyingEngi on Tue, 13 July 2004 07:28
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		Fahrenheit 9/11 By: KIRBY098 on Thu, 22 July 2004 05:51
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		Fahrenheit 9/11 By: Nodbugger on Thu, 22 July 2004 07:52
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		Fahrenheit 9/11 By: KIRBY098 on Thu, 22 July 2004 09:17
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		Fahrenheit 9/11 By: KIRBY098 on Thu, 22 July 2004 16:54
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