btw, i have found a way, if u r playing on a server with idiots, to ge ta vehicle wihhout stealth (sometimes not even in Nod) . Once i was in a sniping position in Field. I saw a engineer step out of a flame tank, repairing it. just about when it was back to full health, i shot him . However, another engy was running to it to claim it . I sniped him as well , the gladly took the "present" he openly invited me to take.